Hi! I personnally prefer shorewall, I use apt-get cause dselect almost erased everything on my system when I was a young guy and I refused since to use an interface ...
Is seLinux really necessary for just routing packets? I should give firehol a test... Michel On Thu, 10 Mar 2005 23:04:51 +0400, Jean-Michel Hiver <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >Well, to each their own, I guess. :) > > > >Can I ask, what is it that you don't like about it? I like to > >understand why people don't use these tools so I can better recommend > >them to my clients according to (my expectations of) their tastes... > > > > > I guess I've just had a bad experience with it... > > I installed knoppix and wanted to clean it up (because I didn't need > things like X). > > Aptitude *looked* intuitive so I used it to remove un-needed packages. I > can't exactly > remember what happened but it had a conflict issue and left my system in > a complete > mess. > > After a while I couldn't even install / uninstall packages with > aptitude, it gave me *really* > strange error messages (again can't remember what exactly...) > > Anyway after this bad experience I decided to learn a bit more about apt > and dpkg and > found the experience a much more pleasing one. Sure it's not as > intuitive / friendly, but > at least it didn't screw up... > > I guess this is all founded on my bad experience and I ought to give it > another go one > of these days... you know how blocking bad first impressions can be :-) > > I think the problem with aptitude is that it probably makes it too easy > to do too much > without really understanding what you're doing - while apt / dpkg doesn't. > > Anyways, I ended up reinstalling knoppix but this time I cleaned up the > system with apt, > then did an apt-get update && apt-get update, and then installed all the > stuff I need. > > Very nice X-less system, does network bridge, traffic shaping, pbx > (using asterisk), > backup server (with differential backups and raid 1), mod_perl enabled > web server, > and vpn (with openvpn). > > Knoppix is my first experience with debian and apart from the aptitude > episode all is > now really easy to maintain. I love debian - it's just sweet and has > tons of really cool > packages :-) > > Cheers, > Jean-Michel. > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

