On Tuesday, 29.03.2005 at 12:37 -0800, Ian Greenhoe wrote:

> I would argue that perhaps, tho, both of you are looking at it the
> wrong way.  Instead of looking for a "motive", I often look for what
> the person is trying to do in an ultimate sense.

Actually, that's what *I* mean.  The ultimate goal is what I'm referring
to as motive. :-)

(Oh, and please don't CC me on list messages)

Dave.
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