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[~minh@2001:7c0:dc15:72:225:56ff:febb:d9f6] has joined #debconf-amsterdam 10:08 -!- tzafrir [~tzafrir@2001:7c0:dc15:72:6267:20ff:fe51:8328] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:10 -!- DCschedule [[email protected]] has joined #debconf-amsterdam 10:10 < DCschedule> Channel announcement starting, I know about 227 talks, and I think it is Tue 18 Aug 2015 10:10:35 CEST 10:14 -!- pmhahn_ is now known as pmhahn 10:19 -!- glasseyes [[email protected]] has joined #debconf-amsterdam 10:29 < DCschedule> The state of Icedove by Carsten Schönert in Berlin/London will start in 30 minutes https://summit.debconf.org/debconf15/meeting/226/the-state-of-icedove/ 10:30 < DCschedule> Debian GIS BoF by Andreas Tille in Amsterdam will start in 30 minutes https://summit.debconf.org/debconf15/meeting/211/debian-gis-bof/ 10:30 < DCschedule> dh-dist-zilla: From dist.ini to .deb in one go by Axel Beckert in Heidelberg will start in 30 minutes https://summit.debconf.org/debconf15/meeting/182/dh-dist-zilla-from-distini-to-deb-in-one-go/ 10:30 < DCschedule> Multiarch/Crossbuild/Bootstrap/Toolchain minisprint by Wookey in Stockholm will start in 30 minutes https://summit.debconf.org/debconf15/meeting/239/multiarch-bootstrap-crossbuilding/ 10:44 < DCschedule> The state of Icedove by Carsten Schönert in Berlin/London will start in 15 minutes https://summit.debconf.org/debconf15/meeting/226/the-state-of-icedove/ 10:45 -!- tzafrir [~tzafrir@2001:7c0:dc15:72:6267:20ff:fe51:8328] has joined #debconf-amsterdam 10:45 < DCschedule> Debian GIS BoF by Andreas Tille in Amsterdam will start in 15 minutes https://summit.debconf.org/debconf15/meeting/211/debian-gis-bof/ 10:45 < DCschedule> dh-dist-zilla: From dist.ini to .deb in one go by Axel Beckert in Heidelberg will start in 15 minutes https://summit.debconf.org/debconf15/meeting/182/dh-dist-zilla-from-distini-to-deb-in-one-go/ 10:45 < DCschedule> Multiarch/Crossbuild/Bootstrap/Toolchain minisprint by Wookey in Stockholm will start in 15 minutes https://summit.debconf.org/debconf15/meeting/239/multiarch-bootstrap-crossbuilding/ 10:50 -!- johanvdw [[email protected]] has joined #debconf-amsterdam 10:54 -!- tzafrir [~tzafrir@2001:7c0:dc15:72:6267:20ff:fe51:8328] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:54 < DCschedule> The state of Icedove by Carsten Schönert in Berlin/London will start in 5 minutes https://summit.debconf.org/debconf15/meeting/226/the-state-of-icedove/ 10:55 < DCschedule> Debian GIS BoF by Andreas Tille in Amsterdam will start in 5 minutes https://summit.debconf.org/debconf15/meeting/211/debian-gis-bof/ 10:55 < DCschedule> dh-dist-zilla: From dist.ini to .deb in one go by Axel Beckert in Heidelberg will start in 5 minutes https://summit.debconf.org/debconf15/meeting/182/dh-dist-zilla-from-distini-to-deb-in-one-go/ 10:55 < DCschedule> Multiarch/Crossbuild/Bootstrap/Toolchain minisprint by Wookey in Stockholm will start in 5 minutes https://summit.debconf.org/debconf15/meeting/239/multiarch-bootstrap-crossbuilding/ 10:58 -!- albac [~alba@2001:7c0:dc15:72:3210:b3ff:fe19:d125] has joined #debconf-amsterdam 10:58 -!- an3as [~tille@2001:7c0:dc15:72:5e51:4fff:fe58:5c69] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:00 < DCschedule> The state of Icedove by Carsten Schönert in Berlin/London has just begun https://summit.debconf.org/debconf15/meeting/226/the-state-of-icedove/ 11:00 -!- DCschedule changed the topic of #debconf-amsterdam to: "Debian GIS BoF" (http://deb.at/DC211) by Andreas Tille in Amsterdam http://deb.at/VA 11:00 < DCschedule> Debian GIS BoF by Andreas Tille in Amsterdam has just begun https://summit.debconf.org/debconf15/meeting/211/debian-gis-bof/ 11:00 < sebastic> video seems to be working, but no network for an3as 11:00 < DCschedule> dh-dist-zilla: From dist.ini to .deb in one go by Axel Beckert in Heidelberg has just begun https://summit.debconf.org/debconf15/meeting/182/dh-dist-zilla-from-distini-to-deb-in-one-go/ 10:30 < DCschedule> Multiarch/Crossbuild/Bootstrap/Toolchain minisprint by Wookey in Stockholm will start in 30 minutes https://summit.debconf.org/debconf15/meeting/239/multiarch-bootstrap-crossbuilding/ 10:44 < DCschedule> The state of Icedove by Carsten Schönert in Berlin/London will start in 15 minutes https://summit.debconf.org/debconf15/meeting/226/the-state-of-icedove/ 10:45 -!- tzafrir [~tzafrir@2001:7c0:dc15:72:6267:20ff:fe51:8328] has joined #debconf-amsterdam 10:45 < DCschedule> Debian GIS BoF by Andreas Tille in Amsterdam will start in 15 minutes https://summit.debconf.org/debconf15/meeting/211/debian-gis-bof/ 10:45 < DCschedule> dh-dist-zilla: From dist.ini to .deb in one go by Axel Beckert in Heidelberg will start in 15 minutes https://summit.debconf.org/debconf15/meeting/182/dh-dist-zilla-from-distini-to-deb-in-one-go/ 10:45 < DCschedule> Multiarch/Crossbuild/Bootstrap/Toolchain minisprint by Wookey in Stockholm will start in 15 minutes https://summit.debconf.org/debconf15/meeting/239/multiarch-bootstrap-crossbuilding/ 10:50 -!- johanvdw [[email protected]] has joined #debconf-amsterdam 10:54 -!- tzafrir [~tzafrir@2001:7c0:dc15:72:6267:20ff:fe51:8328] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:54 < DCschedule> The state of Icedove by Carsten Schönert in Berlin/London will start in 5 minutes https://summit.debconf.org/debconf15/meeting/226/the-state-of-icedove/ 10:55 < DCschedule> Debian GIS BoF by Andreas Tille in Amsterdam will start in 5 minutes https://summit.debconf.org/debconf15/meeting/211/debian-gis-bof/ 10:55 < DCschedule> dh-dist-zilla: From dist.ini to .deb in one go by Axel Beckert in Heidelberg will start in 5 minutes https://summit.debconf.org/debconf15/meeting/182/dh-dist-zilla-from-distini-to-deb-in-one-go/ 10:55 < DCschedule> Multiarch/Crossbuild/Bootstrap/Toolchain minisprint by Wookey in Stockholm will start in 5 minutes https://summit.debconf.org/debconf15/meeting/239/multiarch-bootstrap-crossbuilding/ 10:58 -!- albac [~alba@2001:7c0:dc15:72:3210:b3ff:fe19:d125] has joined #debconf-amsterdam 10:58 -!- an3as [~tille@2001:7c0:dc15:72:5e51:4fff:fe58:5c69] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:00 < DCschedule> The state of Icedove by Carsten Schönert in Berlin/London has just begun https://summit.debconf.org/debconf15/meeting/226/the-state-of-icedove/ 11:00 -!- DCschedule changed the topic of #debconf-amsterdam to: "Debian GIS BoF" (http://deb.at/DC211) by Andreas Tille in Amsterdam http://deb.at/VA 11:00 < DCschedule> Debian GIS BoF by Andreas Tille in Amsterdam has just begun https://summit.debconf.org/debconf15/meeting/211/debian-gis-bof/ 11:00 < sebastic> video seems to be working, but no network for an3as 11:00 < DCschedule> dh-dist-zilla: From dist.ini to .deb in one go by Axel Beckert in Heidelberg has just begun https://summit.debconf.org/debconf15/meeting/182/dh-dist-zilla-from-distini-to-deb-in-one-go/ 11:00 < DCschedule> Debian: A giant with a tiny voice? by Cédric Boutillier in Heidelberg will start in 30 minutes https://summit.debconf.org/debconf15/meeting/232/debian-a-giant-with-a-tiny-voice/ 11:01 < DCschedule> Keeping PostgreSQL 8.4 alive for squeeze LTS by Michael Banck in Berlin/London will start in 30 minutes https://summit.debconf.org/debconf15/meeting/266/keeping-postgresql-8-4-alive-for-squeeze-lts/ 11:01 < DCschedule> Multiarch/Crossbuild/Bootstrap/Toolchain minisprint by Wookey in Stockholm has just begun https://summit.debconf.org/debconf15/meeting/239/multiarch-bootstrap-crossbuilding/ 11:02 < sebastic> is someone in the room with andreas? 11:02 < sebastic> tell him that his laptop has no network anymore 11:03 -!- dvswitch_amsterdam [~dvswitch@2001:7c0:dc15:65:b699:baff:fee0:941a] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:03 < RattusRattus> no audio 11:03 -!- dvswitch_amsterdam [~dvswitch@2001:7c0:dc15:65:b699:baff:fee0:941a] has joined #debconf-amsterdam 11:03 < sebastic> indeed 11:04 < RattusRattus> need help? or is Q fixing>? 11:04 -!- dvswitch_amsterdam [~dvswitch@2001:7c0:dc15:65:b699:baff:fee0:941a] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:05 -!- dvswitch_amsterdam [~dvswitch@2001:7c0:dc15:65:b699:baff:fee0:941a] has joined #debconf-amsterdam 11:06 -!- dvswitch_amsterdam [~dvswitch@2001:7c0:dc15:65:b699:baff:fee0:941a] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:06 -!- dvswitch_amsterdam [~dvswitch@2001:7c0:dc15:65:b699:baff:fee0:941a] has joined #debconf-amsterdam 11:06 -!- albac [~alba@2001:7c0:dc15:72:3210:b3ff:fe19:d125] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:07 -!- dvswitch_amsterdam [~dvswitch@2001:7c0:dc15:65:b699:baff:fee0:941a] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:07 -!- holmgren [[email protected]] has joined #debconf-amsterdam 11:07 < sebastic> eu stream is not working anymore 11:07 -!- an3as [[email protected]] has joined #debconf-amsterdam 11:07 < sebastic> an3as: wb! 11:07 < sebastic> video was working, but not anymore 11:08 -!- dvswitch_amsterdam [~dvswitch@2001:7c0:dc15:65:b699:baff:fee0:941a] has joined #debconf-amsterdam 11:08 < holmgren> The main camera wasn't working, so we tried to reboot and now nothing works. :-P 11:09 -!- dvswitch_amsterdam [~dvswitch@2001:7c0:dc15:65:b699:baff:fee0:941a] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:10 -!- sven_deb [~smu@2001:7c0:dc15:72:816d:4e43:6b9a:25c6] has joined #debconf-amsterdam 11:11 -!- dvswitch_amsterdam [~dvswitch@2001:7c0:dc15:65:b699:baff:fee0:941a] has joined #debconf-amsterdam 11:12 -!- dvswitch_amsterdam [~dvswitch@2001:7c0:dc15:65:b699:baff:fee0:941a] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:12 -!- dvswitch_amsterdam [~dvswitch@2001:7c0:dc15:65:b699:baff:fee0:941a] has joined #debconf-amsterdam 11:13 < an3as> sebastic, would you like to work down on the agenda 11:13 < an3as> we are seeing you here and will comment 11:13 < sebastic> ok, is anyone in the room a member of pkg-grass other that you? 11:13 < an3as> No, not 11:13 < an3as> YET 11:14 -!- dvswitch_amsterdam [~dvswitch@2001:7c0:dc15:65:b699:baff:fee0:941a] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:14 < an3as> Sorry 11:14 < an3as> I also can't drive the discussion 11:14 < an3as> Just make some proposals for the agenda 11:14 < an3as> johanvdw seems to lurk around 11:14 < sebastic> johanvdw: what would you like to start with 11:15 < DCschedule> Debian: A giant with a tiny voice? by Cédric Boutillier in Heidelberg will start in 15 minutes https://summit.debconf.org/debconf15/meeting/232/debian-a-giant-with-a-tiny-voice/ 11:15 -!- dvswitch_amsterdam [~dvswitch@2001:7c0:dc15:65:b699:baff:fee0:941a] has joined #debconf-amsterdam 11:15 < sebastic> the qgis-grass issue seems a good topic to start with 11:15 < DCschedule> Keeping PostgreSQL 8.4 alive for squeeze LTS by Michael Banck in Berlin/London will start in 15 minutes https://summit.debconf.org/debconf15/meeting/266/keeping-postgresql-8-4-alive-for-squeeze-lts/ 11:15 < johanvdw> Hi all 11:15 -!- dunetna [~dunetna@2001:41d0:52:100::11d4] has joined #debconf-amsterdam 11:15 -!- albac [~alba@2001:7c0:dc15:72:3210:b3ff:fe19:d125] has joined #debconf-amsterdam 11:15 < sebastic> an3as: what do the people in the know about Debian GIS? 11:16 < sebastic> s/known/want to know/ 11:17 < sebastic> in general I want to say to anyone interested in what's happening in the Debian GIS team to follow the debian-gis list 11:17 < an3as> Just a little bit 11:17 < an3as> the question was "How can I 'easily' create an OSM server" 11:17 < an3as> I directed to http://blends.debian.org/gis/tasks/osm 11:17 < an3as> Can't say more personaly 11:18 < an3as> Q: Generate own data file for monav 11:18 < an3as> ?? 11:18 < sebastic> good question, setting up an planet DB server and/or tile server is not easy 11:18 < an3as> I just suggested to read the Debian GIS list (and even post questions there) 11:18 < an3as> :-) 11:18 < johanvdw> In fact many possible versions of an OSM server are possible. 11:19 -!- dvswitch_amsterdam [~dvswitch@2001:7c0:dc15:65:b699:baff:fee0:941a] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:19 < sebastic> there is some work going on setting up OSM infrastructure on Debian, see: https://wiki.debian.org/OSM/tileserver/jessie 11:19 -!- faw [[email protected]] has joined #debconf-amsterdam 11:19 < cate> I got a OSM server. It is only slow to do it, but not so complex. On cate on osm wiki you have instruction for debian machines, and thing installed on a local account 11:19 < sebastic> ideally we get an osm-tileserver osm-planet tasks that set that all up 11:19 < sebastic> that needs a lot of development still 11:19 < johanvdw> Depending on your needs, you may need a completely different setup 11:20 -!- dvswitch_amsterdam [~dvswitch@2001:7c0:dc15:65:b699:baff:fee0:941a] has joined #debconf-amsterdam 11:21 -!- dvswitch_amsterdam [~dvswitch@2001:7c0:dc15:65:b699:baff:fee0:941a] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:21 -!- dvswitch_amsterdam [~dvswitch@2001:7c0:dc15:65:b699:baff:fee0:941a] has joined #debconf-amsterdam 11:21 < sebastic> an3as: any other questions from the room? 11:21 < johanvdw> We use extracts of OSM in mobile applications eg, it would be a bad idea to use the full DB for that. The extraction was done on debian :-) 11:21 -!- dvswitch_amsterdam [~dvswitch@2001:7c0:dc15:65:b699:baff:fee0:941a] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:21 < an3as> Next question in the room was: Please be more verbose about grass - qgis upgrade 11:21 -!- dvswitch_amsterdam [~dvswitch@2001:7c0:dc15:65:b699:baff:fee0:941a] has joined #debconf-amsterdam 11:22 -!- dvswitch_amsterdam [~dvswitch@2001:7c0:dc15:65:b699:baff:fee0:941a] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:22 < sebastic> what would the people in the room like to happen with QGIS & GRASS? 11:22 < an3as> Its from a qgis user from cape town 11:22 < sebastic> I'm not using grass myself, so I cannot judge it as a users, only as package maintainer 11:22 < an3as> My quick answer: Make latest QGIS work. 11:22 < an3as> I thinkl it was libgrass - just this library that is used by QGIS 11:23 < sebastic> I want to move GRASS 7 to unstable soon after the GCC 5 transitions 11:23 < johanvdw> I'm +1 on using grass7 in unstable 11:23 < an3as> (assume I'm to stupid to know the details behind) 11:23 < sebastic> I'll disable the qgis-plugin-grass until we get it to work with GRASS 7 11:23 -!- dvswitch_amsterdam [~dvswitch@2001:7c0:dc15:65:b699:baff:fee0:941a] has joined #debconf-amsterdam 11:23 < sebastic> the GRASS upstream community complained that we don't have GRASS 7 in Debian & Ubuntu yet because QGIS is holding it back 11:24 < sebastic> more details about that are in my mail to the debian-gis list from yesterday 11:24 < an3as> I ask people to ask questions themselves 11:24 < sebastic> I'd really like the upstream GRASS packagers to be more involved in the Debian packaging, but we can't seem to make that work yet 11:25 < DCschedule> Debian: A giant with a tiny voice? by Cédric Boutillier in Heidelberg will start in 5 minutes https://summit.debconf.org/debconf15/meeting/232/debian-a-giant-with-a-tiny-voice/ 11:25 < an3as> OK, people should read the list - (I currently do not manage the full mail flow) 11:25 < DCschedule> Keeping PostgreSQL 8.4 alive for squeeze LTS by Michael Banck in Berlin/London will start in 5 minutes https://summit.debconf.org/debconf15/meeting/266/keeping-postgresql-8-4-alive-for-squeeze-lts/ 11:25 -!- dvswitch_amsterdam [~dvswitch@2001:7c0:dc15:65:b699:baff:fee0:941a] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:25 -!- fezie [[email protected]] has joined #debconf-amsterdam 11:25 < johanvdw> sebastic: upstream Grass definitely wants that as well, I talked to them on FOSS4G europe 11:25 -!- dvswitch_amsterdam [~dvswitch@2001:7c0:dc15:65:b699:baff:fee0:941a] has joined #debconf-amsterdam 11:25 -!- valessio`br [[email protected]] has joined #debconf-amsterdam 11:25 < sebastic> johanvdw: so what about a grass packaging sprint? 11:26 < an3as> I'd REALLY recommend sprints 11:26 < valessio`br> hi all, streaming not found? http://video.debconf.org:8000/amsterdam.ogv - 404 - The file you requested could not be found 11:26 < sebastic> your blends talk reminded me that I should push that idea some more 11:26 < an3as> You should review my talk from last saturday about the effects of sprints 11:26 -!- valessio`br is now known as valessio 11:26 < an3as> The video will be online soonish! 11:26 < holmgren> OK, we have video for now 11:26 < sebastic> I really liked the OSGeo C tribe sprint in Vienna, I'd like to tag along with Debian GIS next time 11:27 < sebastic> video + audio \o/ 11:27 < johanvdw> I think sprints are best aligned with upstream (eg foss4g) rather than debian 11:27 < an3as> Attaching to some event seems to be a pretty good idea since the organisation might be more simple 11:28 < sebastic> an3as: show your slide while you can ;) 11:28 < an3as> The slide with the sprints effects from my last talk? 11:28 < johanvdw> OSGeo Belgium is considering to organise a codesprint next to FOSDEM, but nothing has been decided yet 11:28 < an3as> Slides are online at 11:29 < an3as> https://people.debian.org/~tille/talks/20150814_debconf_mom/mom.pdf 11:29 < sebastic> basically the maintainer stats and blends improvements you wanted to talk about 11:29 < an3as> graphics are at the end 11:29 < sebastic> valessio: the x264 stream works 11:29 < an3as> Sprints started at 2011 - just the the change there 11:29 < DCschedule> lunch in cafeteria will start in 30 minutes 11:30 < wouter> valessio: hardware issues in the room 11:30 < johanvdw> Next topic? 11:30 < wouter> slightly fixed, but not really 11:30 < DCschedule> Debian: A giant with a tiny voice? by Cédric Boutillier in Heidelberg has just begun https://summit.debconf.org/debconf15/meeting/232/debian-a-giant-with-a-tiny-voice/ 11:30 < DCschedule> Keeping PostgreSQL 8.4 alive for squeeze LTS by Michael Banck in Berlin/London has just begun https://summit.debconf.org/debconf15/meeting/266/keeping-postgresql-8-4-alive-for-squeeze-lts/ 11:30 < sebastic> johanvdw: upcoming transitions? 11:30 < an3as> People might run away to different events if nothing happens here 11:31 < sebastic> is anyone left in the room? 11:31 < an3as> Yes, they have their laptops open ;-) 11:31 < johanvdw> you want to chase them out ;-) ? 11:31 < an3as> No. This Bof became a "silent hacklab" 11:31 < sebastic> no, I want their input :) 11:31 < an3as> We have other hacklabs with more noise ;-) 11:32 < an3as> Now some attendee fetched his laptop from outside and wants to join IRC with questions 11:32 < johanvdw> I think the transitions have been documented quite well in mail. 11:32 < sebastic> please do, I'd like to hear from the user base! 11:32 < an3as> I told him to since it is hard to do a voice2irc translation for me 11:32 < an3as> There is no real user base here, sorry 11:32 < johanvdw> I wonder how we could help with them 11:32 < an3as> you all are missing! 11:33 < an3as> Please make it a developer meeting as long as there are no question and work down your agenda 11:33 < johanvdw> Registrations were closed, otherwise I would have come. 11:33 -!- faw [[email protected]] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:34 < an3as> johanvdw: That's a shame. I guess you could have come anyway 11:34 < sebastic> hardly anyone from the GIS team being at DebConf is a bug, we should fix that :) 11:34 < an3as> Please ask me next time to negotiate 11:34 < an3as> Its a *serious* bug 11:35 < an3as> Debian GIS will be removed from testing in 10 days 11:35 < an3as> Room is totally silent all are watching IRC 11:35 < sebastic> but since others in the team have expressed a preverence to OSGeo events as venues for in person meetings, I think something like that will happen before another DebConf 11:36 < an3as> Once this has happened Debian GIS might migrate from unstable to testing again 11:36 < sebastic> if I file an RC bug on spatialite about the circular dependency we can easily get most GIS packages removed from testing 11:36 < an3as> circular dependencies are not necessarily RC, IMHO 11:37 < an3as> Any better idea than smalltalk? 11:37 < sebastic> my proposed plan to resolve the issue in the geos transition was focused on preventing testing removals 11:37 < johanvdw> OGC licensing 11:37 -!- valessio [[email protected]] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:38 < johanvdw> We got their attention even on the highest levels of OGC, so we should really try to do sth with that. 11:38 < sebastic> good point, I'd love to get some ftp-master input on that 11:38 < johanvdw> I was just adding some explanation to the titanpad:https://titanpad.com/cmRLP7TOPV 11:39 < johanvdw> Basically they/we want to know what changes would be needed to make the license DFSG compatible 11:39 < an3as> I'll link to titanpad on my talks page and I also add an IRC log to this place 11:39 < johanvdw> The license is here: http://metadata.ftp-master.debian.org/changelogs//non-free/p/pycsw/pycsw_1.10.1+dfsg-2_copyright 11:40 < johanvdw> In fact the license (software license) is BSD-3 11:40 < johanvdw> But it can only be used " long as you do not use the same 11:40 < an3as> so did you followed my hint to re-explain the issue to ftpmaster 11:40 < johanvdw> formal namespace or public identifier to identify that modified OGC schema/DTD 11:40 < an3as> ? 11:40 < johanvdw> (which might confuse applications), you may treat the schema/DTD under the 11:40 < minh> one question about gvsig: Some time ago it was a binary package. Has that changed yet 11:40 < an3as> There it is another user question!!! 11:41 < sebastic> minh: good question, I'm not very familiar with the package, but I don't expect anything to have changed 11:41 < johanvdw> I believe upstream provides a binary package for OSGeo live 11:41 < an3as> tracker.debian.org has no package gvsig 11:42 < johanvdw> It is based on the java stack, so needs among others geotools 11:43 < an3as> I havn't found it at packages.d.o or any web search in bugs.debian.org 11:44 < johanvdw> an3as, in debian med you sometimes have java packages which don't have all dependencies packaegd, do I remember it correctly? 11:44 < an3as> unfortunately yes. 11:44 < an3as> these hang around in non-free 11:44 < an3as> I'd love to have additional 2-3 hours per day for working on this 11:44 < DCschedule> lunch in cafeteria will start in 15 minutes 11:45 < an3as> I've got the signal of time over 11:45 < an3as> Usually there is to little time for the BoFs 11:45 < johanvdw> The problem is that a lot of dependencies have to be packaged before anything useful can be done with them 11:45 < an3as> We had a bit too much 11:45 < an3as> Video will be turned off 11:46 < sebastic> we can move the chat over to #debian-gis and everything else to the debian-gis@ list 11:46 < johanvdw> ok, can anyone save this chat history (mine is incomplete) 11:46 < sebastic> an3as: thanks for having the BoF and all your work for Debian GIS 11:47 < an3as> You are welcome 11:47 < an3as> Next time you should consider joing DebConf seriously 11:48 < an3as> I'll cut from IRC now since I'll move around for lunch (you have seen DCschedule ;-))
