On 29/05/26 12:03 pm, Simon Josefsson wrote:
> In which work-flows would anyone care to put '_build/' into .gitignore?
> I never understood what kind of build environment anyone would even
> notice or care about telling git to ignore Debian build artifacts.

I am trying to understand as to what problem having debian/_build is trying
to solve, really. I also don't seem to understand as to why would anyone
ever want to have `_build` inside of `.gitignore`. Aren't we supposed
to not disturb any upstream files?

> Thus, I would have been equally fine with a policy to keep using
> --builddir=_build and tell people to NOT put _build in .gitignore.
> Modifying upstream .gitignore with Debian-specific stuff is horrible, as
> it increases auditing costs.  I don't see any other real advantage with
> putting the builddir beneath debian/ beyond .gitignore, is there one?
I somehow don't understand how this is even specific to golang packages. I have 
seen
quite some C library packages which (using cmake mostly) output stuff into
obj-<arch__triplet> directory in the root itself; and adding that to 
`debian/clean`
is often the right thing to do.

Similar to this, why can't we have go tooling add `_build/` to `debian/clean` 
instead
of changing the builddir?

On 31/05/26 11:11 am, Simon Josefsson wrote:
> Santiago Vila <[email protected]> writes:
> 
>> On Fri, May 29, 2026 at 10:28:01AM +0800, Otto Kekäläinen wrote:
>>
>>> I am resurrecting this old discussion from 2024 and 2025: I don't like
>>> how Go builds currently use `_build/` as the build directory, and as a
>>> consequence lots of Debian Go packages end up modifying the upstream
>>> `.gitignore` to exclude `_build/`.
>>>
>>> I'd rather have build artifacts in `debian/_build` and exclude this
>>> directory in `debian/.gitignore`.
>>
>> Beware with debian/.gitignore. Packages having such file are not
>> "source-reproducible", i.e. "apt-get source package" followed by
>> "dpkg-buildpackage -S" may result in a source package which is
>> different than the original one in the archive.
> 
> That would be solved by removing debian/.gitignore from git, right?
> 
> The file is incompatible with tag2upload quilt=unapplied, which is how I
> prefer to use tag2upload.  I see no strong reason for having a
> debian/.gitignore at all these days.  I see mild reasons for not having
> the file, because it breaks source package reproducibility.  I'd like
> this to be the default Go team style, and for us to care about
> binary/source reproducibility generally.

I use t2u when possible too, and happen to think that we should avoid 
d/.gitignore
when possible due to source reproducibility too.

I'm neither against the proposal nor in favour of it. Just unsure as to what 
this
is going to solve.

Best,
Nilesh

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