On Thu, Sep 11, 2003 at 05:52:29PM +1000, Jeff Waugh wrote:

 >   2) Leave 2.2 to migrate from unstable to testing as it is, and get
 >   2.4 working in experimental. When 2.2 has fully migrated, shift 2.4
 >   into unstable en masse, and allow it to migrate down to testing.
 > 
 >   PRO: Testing will have a guaranteed stable release as a fallback
 >   PRO: En masse shift to 2.4 in unstable may be easier on users and the BTS
 >   CON: Development in experimental, may not provide very wide user access

 Has anyone taken a *serious* look at how feasible this is?  I mean,
 supposing the glibc/gcc mess gets fixed in anything that can be
 reasonably be called "near future" (i.e., no more than a week or two),
 what will happen with the GNOME packages?  My guess is that the first
 thing that needs to move to testing is glib2.0

 http://bjorn.haxx.se/debian/testing.pl?package=glib2.0

    * glib2.0 is only 9 days old. It must be 10 days to go in.
    * glib2.0 is waiting for glibc, gcc-3.3

 Ok, that doesn't look that bad.

 The next thing that needs to move to testing is gtk+2.0 I'd guess:

 http://bjorn.haxx.se/debian/testing.pl?package=gtk%2B2.0

    * gtk+2.0 is only 1 days old. It must be 10 days to go in.
    * gtk+2.0 is waiting for glibc, glib2.0
    * gtk+2.0 is out of date on arm: 2.2.2-3 vs 2.2.4-1 (most likely
      build problems)

 What's with that build problem?  Someone looking at it?

 http://buildd.debian.org/build.php?arch=arm&pkg=gtk+2.0

 And now I don't have a clue how to proceed further.  libgnome?

 http://bjorn.haxx.se/debian/testing.pl?package=libgnome

    * libgnome is waiting for gcc-3.3, glibc

 Looks sane.

 libbonoboui:

 http://bjorn.haxx.se/debian/testing.pl?package=libbonoboui

    * libbonoboui is only 1 days old. It must be 10 days to go in.
    * libbonoboui is waiting for bonobo-activation, glibc, glib2.0,
      gcc-3.3

 bonobo-activation:

 http://bjorn.haxx.se/debian/testing.pl?package=bonobo-activation

    * bonobo-activation is waiting for glibc, gcc-3.3

 The other stuff in the GNOME food chain I'm not sure about.  Someone
 care to make a list (considering dependencies)?  Note that pently of
 GNOME 2.2 stuff seems to be happy with versions already in testing (or
 that's my guess looking at some of the packages).

 Bj�rn has some nice summary pages which can be grepped with the list of
 all the packages we'd be interested in.

-- 
Marcelo


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