On Sun, 2006-04-02 at 03:59 +0200, Heikki Henriksen wrote: > søn, 19,.03.2006 kl. 14.18 +0100, skrev Frederic Peters: > > For those of us tracking GNOME 2.14 arrival in Debian, I made a > > summary table; > > http://www.0d.be/debian/debian-gnome-2.14-status.html > > You can probably add the status for gtkhtml3.10 (source-package > gtkthml3.8), evolution 2.6 and evolution-data-server 1.6 from > pkg-evolution/branches/experimental on svn/alioth as well :) > > For the people interested: gtkhtml 3.10 is now in experimental, e-d-s > 1.6.0 is in NEW on its way to experimental, while evolution 2.6.0 waits > in svn for an upload to experimental (via NEW). > > We will wait to see how long before evolution 2.4.2.1-2 can move to > testing, and how fast things go through NEW, before deciding on when the > 2.14-series of evolution and friends will move from experimental to > unstable.
Just one user's perspective: I would EXTREMELY HIGHLY recommend putting the new evolution in unstable as soon as possible! Evolution in testing is completely unusable, which left me (and probably thousands of other testing users) without email since about last Thursday, which will persist until gnome-vfs2 licensing issues are sorted out. And unstable has been completely usable for some weeks, as can be seen at: http://mail.gnome.org/archives/evolution-list/2006-March/msg00148.html Because this is unacceptable for my functioning in society (job, etc.), in desperation I grabbed the Ubuntu packages from launchpad.net (what's launchpad.net? Never heard of it, found it on Google, I really hope they're not compromised, or my future .debs will be compromised...), and went through a bit of manual .deb dependency hell the likes of which I haven't seen since I left RedHat eight years ago. And now apt doesn't work because Ubuntu's launchpad depends on python (>= 2.4) which conflicts with numerous python packages. And spam filtering doesn't work, at startup I get "(evolution:26324): e-utils-WARNING **: Plugin 'Spamassassin junk plugin' failed to load hook 'org.gnome.evolution.mail.junk:1.0'" and even bogofilter doesn't do anything. Where exactly does one get packages in the NEW queue? They're not in incoming (why?), nor are they findable from alioth.debian.org, whose project tree is filled with obscure and unhelpful "catagories" like "Debian" and "Desktop Environment", then when drills down the relevant categories evolution is not there, and it's not at all clear how to get anything which *is* there (e.g. search for evolution: "This Project Has Not Released Any Files", and the patches are useless on their own). This brings up the question: why was this transition done piecemeal, unlike the last >three GNOME transitions which went all into experimental, then all unstable, then for the most part all testing? That it's impossible to have a coherent system with *ANY* single distribution (testing, unstable, or experimental until evolution gets through the queue) is highly problematic. I know, caveat emptor testingae, but I don't see why this transition was done in such a fundamentally broken way relative to 2.8, 2.10 and 2.12. Sorry about the flame, it's been an extremely frustrating few days. Let me know if/how I can help to resolve the situation. -Adam -- GPG fingerprint: D54D 1AEE B11C CE9B A02B C5DD 526F 01E8 564E E4B6 Welcome to the best software in the world today cafe! http://www.take6.com/albums/greatesthits.html
