Oh GOD, As I understand, if we prevent /etc/X11/Xsession.d/75dbus_dbus-launch to be executed, gnome-session will start dbus and it's what we need exactly. But that #395488 bug complicates the situation... the risk of killing dbus-daemon at all...
Alan > Hi, > > Does d-i install dbus service as a standard part of the system? > > Alan > >> Hi, >> >> The session DBus in Debian Xsessions is currently started by >> /etc/X11/Xsession.d/75dbus_dbus-launch if the use-session-dbus option >> is set. >> >> Newer gnome-session will spawn a session DBus automatically if none has >> been started. >> >> If gnome-session launches DBus, DBus will inherit env from >> gnome-session which is handy for gnome-keyring for example. >> >> I suspect we wouldn't suffer from the sound issues (the desktop sounds >> are not working bugs) would we be moving to launch DBus from >> gnome-session, and I think this is what we should aim to do. >> >> >> I personally think it makes a lot of sense to launch DBus from >> gnome-session; what I wonder about is how we're going to switch to this >> setup. >> Ubuntu plans to fix this via a patch to the dbus Xsession snippet to >> avoid starting DBus when running GNOME session; see Ubuntu #62163 and >> <http://librarian.launchpad.net/7170382/dbus_1.0.2-1ubuntu34.patch>. >> It's not trivial to know whether we're really in a GNOME session >> because: >> - from the PoV of gdm, there are a couple of GNOME sessions, and the >> "Default" session, which will launch x-session-manager which might or >> might not gnome-session >> - sessions can be started via startx and/or various other ways >> >> >> Note: there's currently an upstream bug that gnome-session does not >> wait on DBus enough; see GNOME bug #395488. >> >> -- >> Lo�c Minier >> >> >> -- >> To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> > > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

