Brent Fulgham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > I tried to get the packages but there was huge dependencies problems > > (notably shell-utils 'conflicts' with login, and also > > pre-depends on 'login' or 'hurd'... that made me do several mistakes > > - the removal of basic packages that rendered my system useless... > > and I did a fresh install, since I knew more this time and could > > avoid several errors). > > > > For what it's worth I saw this problem, too. I just overrode the > shellutils conflict and installed it. I think the problem is that > Hurd "provides login", which still gets treated as a conflict. This > was the shellutils in the ftp.debian.org archive.
Yes, but with a fresh install they didn't appear.... my system was broken or something was upgraded meanwhile. > > > Also, when I put the ftp.de.debian.org line in sources.list > > (unstable main) it reports a huge amount of packages... that > > prolly belong to Linux woody... but if I specify binary-hurd-i386 > > apt tries to open ...debian/dists/unstable/main/ > > binary-hurd-i386/binary-hurd-i386 ... Is that amount of packages > > (that include gnome, kde, netscape, Linux kernel, > > etc...) normal? If not how do I get it to work? > > > > I think they are normal. Some of the packages show up as binary-all > because they are either sources (like the linux kernel packages), > or are not binaries in the true sense (like various system utilities > written in Perl). > > Before updating you should probably install the dpkg found at > alpha.gnu.org (1.6.999). It works flawlessly and you can trust its > package handling. That was prolly it, the new dpkg; I have that like back on, thanks. > > > The solution was to comment out ftp.de.debian.org (after upgrading > > everything, the hurd to the correct new version) and make do with > > alpha.gnu.org... then I saw all the new X packages and > > installed them (I pretty much installed them all, except for > > Xservers, only installed mine). > > > Good. And now they even work ;) > > > I had the following problems: > > > > Making the mouse translator (settrans /dev/mouse etc) it says > > /dev/mouse, file not found; I tried to do a MAKEDEV mouse but > > it gave me an error (MAKEDEV kbd worked); reading the Japanese > > page (Yasushi's one) I saw that with a serial mouse '/dev/mouse > > not needed'... is the error to be expected? If not, what must > > I recompile? > > > > Note that MAKEDEV on the Hurd is just a script that calls > settrans with the right options. If you try to settrans and you > get a "file not found", just do a "mkdir /dev/mouse" first, > then settrans the mouse. This should probably be done automatically > in the upcoming Hurd *.deb packages. I used touch, I guess it is the same, and now the mouse in X moves but totally without control... > > > Anyway, the real trouble came later: I set up my XF86Config > > file, did a startx and receives an error message saying something like > > 'xauth: libXmu.so.6 not found' > > > > (about 8 lines of the same error) > > > > I will look in the Packages to see in which one is LibXmu > > installed.... but since I installed just about every one I wonder... > > > > I had this problem, too. It's because I forgot that the Hurd does > not use ld.so.conf like Linux does. We must include the X11R6 > directories in the LD_LIBRARY_PATH environment variable. > > Do the following: > > 1. In your ~/.bashrc add a line like: > > LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/X11R6/lib:$LD_LIBRARY_PATH > > 2. Exit and log back in. > > This will add X's libraries to your shell's library search path. > All will work properly afterward. Done that, thanks a lot, it solved the problem. > > > Oh, and I sometimes get a 'default pager error: dumping > > blablabla', that keeps appearing in my screen (like a $yes) > > and I have to reboot the system, sometimes with the reset button) > > > > Yes. There are still some memory leaks/paging problems. Just > increase your swap partition size (or create a large swapfile). > Things may seem bad now, but you should have tried the hurd a > year ago ;-) Ehe, I can imagine... I always wanted to try GNU/Hurd, even in the time when it was only a tarball ar gnu.org, but I had a ppp connection with high rates ($$$ rates, not bauds :)); now I'm getting even. > > Good luck, Thanks. Frederico S. Mu�oz [EMAIL PROTECTED]

