Thank you for this posting, Emile. It might enable use to at least understand each others point of view, which is never a bad thing.
Emile van Bergen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If, for a minute, you'd try to adopt the 'Debian as an OS' point of > view, you'd see that in order to get things like changes to filesystem > conventions or patches to important packages accepted, you'd have to > play by Debian's rules. Even if those changes have already been fully > accepted in the abstract base OS (in this case GNU, or more precisely, > GNU/Hurd). I certainly have never ever before seen a distribution as coherent as Debian; but it is easy for you to say that Debian GNU/Hurd should follow the rules of Debian and not attempt to change them, while these rules actually resemble the rules of GNU/Linux (at least we have the feeling they are; and this is what matters, as I try to make you understand our point of view). And this is the core of the problem. If Debian had its own rules entirely (which you seem to claim in some way, but which I think is not quite right), I could imagine there would be slightly less resistence against these rules from GNU/Hurd people, even if we try to do what we consider the Right Thing. And please also note that (as has been said before) the GNU/Hurd people have been hoping to make a release inside of Debian, and some have even been hoping that Debian GNU/Hurd might become _the_ GNU system. > If you want to hold a plea for modeling different base OSes independent > from different architectures, be my guest -- I think there could be some > good arguments that could be considered, I don't know. I personally do not want to discuss this, maybe someone else will. I have said that I have given up already and if I say it, I mean it (yes, I'm a stolid person at times). Cheers, GNU/Wolfgang -- Wolfgang J�hrling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> \\ http://stdio.cjb.net/ Debian GNU/Hurd user && Debian GNU/Linux user \\ http://www.gnu.org/ The Hurd Hacking Guide: http://www.gnu.org/software/hurd/hacking-guide/ ["We're way ahead of you here. The Hurd has always been on the ] [ cutting edge of not being good for anything." -- Roland McGrath ] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

