On Thu, May 23, 2002 at 12:11:36AM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: > It's not what the hack does that matters, it's the quality of it. If > you don't leave time for it to be tested, there's no way I'm going to > have faith in it.
Have you read what I was talking about? The code is the original ipchains Linux code, I would not going to touch that with a pole. The issue is only about glue code (passing through the ioctl), and you can tell if that works. It works if it works. You know, considering that I am working on and with this system for over three years now, one could think you would have a bit of faith in what I am saying about it, or check yourself. > It is *irrelevant* what it looks like. It needs time to be tested. Time > which it won't get if it's left until marginally before the next release. Yeah, well, but things have to be done in proper order. > ...but at least he actually got out there and *did* it. The only way to > work out the right way to do something is to do it the wrong way a few > times first. There is no need for the wrong things to be released. > And if you do that, you'll find you've left it too late, and that there's > not enough time to put together a usable firewalling tool. I'm not sure > what you're not getting about that. If you leave it 'til the last minute, > you'll be twiddling your thumbs for yet another year. That's what you think. > So much for the benefits of being able to develop everything in userspace, > eh? In case you didn't notice, the problem is the same in Linux. It's just that everyone has given up hope that Linux kernel provide a sane and compatible external interface to the user. > To reiterate: don't leave thinking about this or doing it (or any of > the other things that make the Hurd unreleasable) until the next freeze. > If you're prioritising other things above release requirements, that's > your choice, obviously, but do be aware of exactly what that means. So far, it is not determined if Debian GNU/Hurd must release with a firewall feature. Thanks, Marcus -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

