Svante Signell, le Fri 19 Aug 2011 16:27:45 +0200, a écrit : > On Fri, 2011-08-19 at 14:56 +0200, Samuel Thibault wrote: > > Svante Signell, le Fri 19 Aug 2011 14:47:30 +0200, a écrit : > > > On Fri, 2011-08-19 at 14:36 +0200, Samuel Thibault wrote: > > > > > > > > It could have turned out that this bug hindered a lot of other > > > > > packages from building. > > > > > > > > Sure, but there's no point in rushing building packages: there's a whole > > > > year for that. What we need to do is fixing bugs, not hide them. > > > > > > How to address the problem with DMs not willing to package new upstream > > > versions fixing a lot of bugs, especially including Hurd build problems? > > > NMU?? This hinders a lot of progress. > > > > Please point a specific case and we'll end up doing an NMU, yes. > > According to graph-top.txt, there's not so much hindering. > > Two examples: > 1) file > Unstable: 5.04-5+b1 (5.04-5: 05 Aug 2010) > Experimental: 5.04-6: 18 Sep 2010 > Upstream: 5.08: 03 Aug 2011 > Upstream version fixing FTBFS: 5.06: 14 Apr 2011
We already have a file package in the archive, so it's not urging. NMU-ing a newer upstream version is a tought thing to do. What could be done, however, is to extract the exact upstream fix and submit to the bug, and after some time, NMU. > 2) logrotate > Unstable: 3.7.8-6: 17 Apr 2010 > Experimental: 3.7.9-1: 22 Jun 2011 > Upstream version fixing FTBFS: 3.8.0: 21 Jun 2011 We also have a logrotate package in the archive, so it's not urging. > Bug reports: > #612342: 14 Feb 2011, Partially correct patch, applied to 3.7.9 #613342 actually :) > #633529: 11 Jul 2011, wishlist about 3.8.0 Again, NMU-ing the newer upstream version is a tought thing. Apparently Paul Martin is responsive, so he is probably just waiting for the right time (that is, when he has time to spend on it) to upload the newer upstream version. In both case, we already have an installable package in hurd-i386, so they don't hinder anything and are thus not urging, there is not much use spending time on them since the fixes are even commited upstream already. They'll most probably simply arrive with next upstream release upload, there is no need to spend time to make that happen faster, since that does not help anything else. If (and only if) no newer upstream release gets uploaded, we'll have to spend time NMU-ing a patch, but it takes less time to just bet that the newer upstream will get uploaded (and it probably will, so it's a safe bet). Samuel -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [email protected] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [email protected] Archive: http://lists.debian.org/[email protected]

