Hey 4winter, [email protected] writes:
> With the `ifupdown` fixes that I published last week I actually > reached my initial goal, that is to make Debian/Hurd boot using > `sysvinit` and the `initscripts` provided by Debian. Excellent work! Is there a test box or repo somewhere I could try out? > So on Monday we were discussing in #hurd what I could do next. Michael > Banck suggested that I should port Upstart, but we agreed to do > something different instead for two reasons: > > 1. Upstart and systemd are somewhat competing to be the default init > system for Debian, and we felt it might be inappropriate to get > involved with this question as porting Upstart to Hurd would > probably also enable it to be used on FreeBSD. The Upstart folks > could then point out that Upstart is more portable because it runs > on all kernels used by Debian. > > 2. Upstart uses ptrace(2) to track child processes of servers it > monitors. Obviously this is kind of a hack, and it was conjectured > that Upstart would eventually use cgroups to do that. Also, the > Hurd lacks support for ptrace(2) (that is most likely by choice by > the way, ptrace(2) is not a nice interface and the Hurd (Mach > actually) has much nicer interfaces to implement a debugger). As I mentioned in the beginning of SOC, porting OpenRC to Hurd would be easy as the codebase is very light and no Linux-specific feature required. And now it reached a compatibility level that could drop-in replace sysv-rc, thanks to Bill Wang. So I'd like to hear your and the hurd team's opinion towards OpenRC. > So we decided that no matter how the struggle between Upstart and > systemd turns out, the Hurd would eventually need to support > cgroups. Very reasonable decision. It will benefit us all. [...] Cheers, Benda -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [email protected] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [email protected] Archive: http://lists.debian.org/[email protected]
