Quoting Samuel Thibault (2026-06-09 20:47:35) > Johannes Schauer Marin Rodrigues, le mar. 09 juin 2026 20:41:27 +0200, a > ecrit: > > curl --silent > > http://ftp.ports.debian.org/debian-ports/dists/unstable/main/binary-hurd-i386/Packages.xz > > | unxz | grep-dctrl -F Package netdde > > > > The above comes back empty. The netdde package is not part of the unstable > > suite (but it is present in unreleased) and that's why mmdebstrap does not > > pick > > it up when it is told to install a chroot for the suite called "unstable". > > > > Is this intentional? > > debian doesn't really want to see old linux code getting into the > main archive just for the purpose of the hurd port. Same goes for > rumpkernel and such. > > > Should I add a workaround? > > Yes, ports are often not really bootstrapable without the unreleased suite.
Thank you! I manually added netdde for this reason and updated the debvm merge request accordingly: https://salsa.debian.org/helmutg/debvm/-/merge_requests/39 With these changes I can create a bootable Hurd system on Linux by running: mmdebstrap --unshare-helper \ bin/debvm-create \ -o ~/tmp/rootfs.ext4 \ --sshkey /tmp/id_rsa.pub \ --release=unstable \ --initsystem=sysv \ --architecture=hurd-i386 \ -- \ --mode=chrootless \ --customize-hook='echo root | passwd --prefix "$1" --stdin root' \ "deb http://ftp.ports.debian.org/debian-ports/ unstable main" \ "deb http://ftp.ports.debian.org/debian-ports/ unreleased main" \ "deb [trusted=yes] http://127.0.0.1:8080 ./" I can then either log into this system as root with password root (but youpi fixed autologin with the next src:hurd upload) or via ssh: ssh -o NoHostAuthenticationForLocalhost=yes -p 2222 [email protected] You can see that a custom local repo is still needed. This is for some packages with patches that were not yet merged by the respective maintainers: * openssh https://salsa.debian.org/ssh-team/openssh/-/merge_requests/39 * ifupdown https://salsa.debian.org/debian/ifupdown/-/merge_requests/31 * init-system-helpers https://salsa.debian.org/debian/init-system-helpers/-/merge_requests/33 * ucf https://salsa.debian.org/debian/ucf/-/merge_requests/5 For bit-by-bit reproducible installation we also need (but not strictly required): * pam https://salsa.debian.org/vorlon/pam/-/merge_requests/33 And for the sysvinit/update-rc debhelper postinst snippet, some binNMUs still have to be carried out: * dbus https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=1139311 * seedfiles https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=1139342 Theoretially a binNMU would've been necessary but its maintainer just did a no-changes source upload instead. So this is the current status. Patches exist and "just" need to get merged. :) Thanks! cheers, josch
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