On Sun, Sep 25, 2005 at 01:41:40AM +0200, Frans Pop wrote: > On Sunday 25 September 2005 00:40, Jens Seidel wrote: > > If the patch is accepted by most of you, I will extent it the next time > > and will try to provide it in a more suitable form. > > I have done a quick check of the patch and there are a great many good > corrections in it. However it also confirms my unhappiness with these > kind of integrated patches.
It seems you misunderstood my mail. It was never indented for you Frans or Christian Perrier. It was intended for translators of debian installer since I know that many read this list. I think I will wait a week until I will contact all translators directly which did not respond up to this time. Another week later I will commit all obvious errors by myself. > First of all, this patch, if submitted as one big patch, should have been > submitted as a minor bugreport against debian-installer, not sent to the > i18n list. But the patch is similar to the one of [EMAIL PROTECTED] ([D-I] Variable subsitution (level2)) and there was no remark that it should be filled as bug. > I am amazed (and jealous) at your knowledge of all these languages; Yeah, it's great, isn't it :-)) No, all issues ware collected by a script, I just selected a few of the most obvious errors. Since I cannot guarantee that I'm right all the time I need permission of the translators. I would never commit a change if I'm not sure about it. > however personally I would not feel confortable in committing some of the > changes you've made for languages I don't speak as I cannot judge your > knowledge of the language nor, if that is what you used, the correctness > of your dictionary and thus, the correctness of the changes. > Example: the multiple changes of s/dosyian/dosiyan/ in ku.po. Of course. As I already said, the patch was indended for translators of the corresponding language, so only the dutch part is for you :-)) > Also, the patch contains some obvious errors, or at least changes that > need to be checked carefully: > - in ru.po a string is deleted; Right, but only #~ msgid "An error occured during the previous operation" which is a comment and contains a typo (occured), which is useless to fix but is always triggered by my script. > - in pt_BR.po 'bootstrap' is wrongly corrected to 'boostrap' (line 8060). Wrongly? Mmh, probably yes. I assumed "boostrap" is the translation of "bootstrap" since the first occurred 4 times but the second only a single time. > I would probably be happy to commit all the really obvious changes like > s/etx2/ext2/ or devconf/debconf. However, as they are mixed with all the > other changes I cannot judge, I doubt I would make the effort to filter > them out. Maybe someone else will though... That's really my task, it was never planned that another guy (except the corresponding) translator does this. > If the patch had been separated for the different languages, I probably > would have taken the trouble to forward them to the individual > translators responsible with the request to check and apply if correct > (and maybe commit the really obvious ones myself). This was my aim with my mail. > By creating one "big" patch, you're basically putting the responsibility Right, but it was only a very very minor one. I wasn't sure long time whether it's worth to send it, since it only fixes a very few errors. It should be no problem for me (except time and maybe also more false possitives) to create a similar patch which is by a factor of 10 or 50 larger. > to check and apply the patch on a single person. IMO this decreases the > chance that someone will take the trouble to look at it and thus > increases the chance that your work will be wasted. > By investing a little bit extra time on your side and splitting the patch > into different types of fixes and separate patches for the each language, > this would have been avoided. > > Again Jens, I very much appreciate your work (and have done in the past > for e.g. the Release Notes), but please spare a thought for the people > that have to review/apply/distribute your patches. OK. > P.S. The patch for Dutch looks fine :-) Great. But I hope you apply at least this part. Jens -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
