We have had the same thing on expensive switches, something to note is in our 
experience they are the same switches that PPPoE won't work through. 

-----Original Message-----
From: Jeroen Massar [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Tuesday, 23 December 2008 3:04 a.m.
To: Pascal Hambourg
Cc: [email protected]
Subject: Re: 6to4 tunnel trouble

Pascal Hambourg wrote:
> Jeroen Massar a écrit :
>> Martin List-Petersen wrote:
>> [..]
>>> your switches are layer2, tcp/ip (be it v4 or v6) goes on top of 
>>> that and your switches wouldn't know the difference.
>>
>> Unfortunately that is not really the case. Especially when it comes 
>> to handling multicast there are certain (not many though) switches 
>> that do not properly handle multicast, as such all IPv6 Neighbor 
>> Discovery goes bad. Sometimes it does work at one point and then 
>> fails at another. This happened to several 'expensive' switches and also to 
>> cheap ones.
> 
> Don't cheap "dumb" switches to handle multicast as broadcast ?

That is one solution, and in that case multicast could work.

The but here is that some switches only handle a subset of the MAC addresses 
which are meant for multicast purposes and as IPv6 uses a different range than 
the standard set, some of these setups break.

>> Generally putting an interface in PROMISC handles the problem 
>> partially, but that is something one wants to avoid of course.
> 
> I knew about the promisc trick as a workaround with broken ethernet 
> NICs or drivers, but how could it help when the switch is broken ?

It helped in some cases I have encountered, don't know exactly why though; 
replacing the hardware in question is generally the best solution depending on 
what one wants to achieve.

Greets,
 Jeroen




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