Hi Frederic, On Wed, Apr 12, 2017 at 10:14:20AM +0200, Frederic Bonnard wrote: > > I took the freedom to copy your mail to Debian Java list where this > > discussion seems to belong to. If you agree please stick to list > > discussion. > > yes, no problem.
:-) > > So we are only 10 packages away. ;-) > > > > New queue is quite empty currently - lets fill it! ;-) > > > > Would you mind moving all these to pkg-java Git and ping me step by > > step. I'm fine by uploading also those packages where a predependency > > remains in new. I'd use a local apt repository and thus we could speed > > up the process a bit. > > do you think of a different way of pushing those packages in Git ? > Because when we discussed previously, you mentionned that those packages are > made > of multiple source tarballs and that git-buildpackage does not deal with > that properly : > https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=855941#34 > Also there is a load of binary jars which are used, for the time being, > to bootstrap packages using sbt as build tool, and I was not sure if git > was adapted to that (well it will handle this I guess, but within the > Debian process, I don't know). > What do you think ? Well, may be we discussed this previously and I simply forgot. Please keep in mind that I'm doing lots of stuff and might forget something we agreed upon before. Feel free to remind me about this. ;-) > (Still, VCS would really be nice for team > comaintaining of course given the number of package that will be needed) > Given that all jars currently embedded will disappear one day, we will > end up using a VCS for sure. Doing without for now as for scala-pickling > can help to speed up package submission to NEW queue. OK, fine. > But is that time gap, between now and the end of the bootstrap > acceptable without VCS? I don't know since I have no idea of it. But I > guess it will take months. I don't think the packaging will evolve too > much though as the needed libraries for the different sbt modules are numerous > but don't evolve much (for those I could check the upstream history). > What do you think ? is there some intermediate solution ? Well, just tell me the sequence and the *.dsc file I should have a sponsoring look. I do not mind about RFS bugs as I said before. > > Cool. So lets get sbt into Debian and than have a look at pilon. BTW, > > I think we can upload right to unstable instead of experimental or do > > you have good reason to play inside experimental sandbox? > > well, I'm not sure, I just considered the following facts : > - this is work in progress and sbt will need many more modules to just build > any random project out there ( but on the other hand this can never end ) > - the bootstrap process is not finished (and all this source > packages looks ugly to me as there are with embedded jars :) ) ; but > this take a bit of time > - I'd like to play more with all this (I'm not a scala expert) and have > some reviews from scala guys > - debian freeze is ongoing At least the last item is no reason. Uploads to experimental are just for those packages that are in testing right now and might need a bug fix upload via unstable which should pass easily without any version bump. > My unstable-experimental slider bar is not well calibrated so far, > I'm not used to estimate that kind of things actually :) > On the other hand having sbt reach unstable and people hitting > problems of some particular sbt modules not yet packaged or worse, may help > dragging some workforce :) and help test all this (such as your pilon > package). Also, those packages I did so far enable sbt to minimally run, > so at least it's not broken, just missing modules. Thanks again for the detailed explanation. > > I'd also like to mention that in the long term you might consider > > becoming a Debian Maintainer. Seems you are doing pretty complex stuff > > and thus have understood even advanced packaging. Once we might be able > > to run `sbt help` I'll probably ask you for this with a stronger > > emphasis. > > ok :-) > > Thanks for your contribution > > welcome So, well, just give me a sensible sequence for sponsoring and a pointer to the according *.dsc files on mentors to enable me to dget it right from your mail. I'll try my best to help you through the bootstrap process. Kind regards Andreas. -- http://fam-tille.de
