On Fri, 8 Dec 2000, Ben Armstrong wrote:

> "Debian Jr. Ultra-light"
> 
> CPU:  486dx/33
> RAM:  16M
> Disk: 200M
> Video:        512K unaccelerated, 640x480 VGA
> Sound:        optional
> Comments:
>       X just barely runs on this system.  You might get away with
>       it for a while if you get something like this, especially while
>       the kids are still very young and are just playing with "desktop
>       toys" on it.  It makes a decent "second system" to run as an X
>       terminal connected to a parents' box.  Systems like this can be
>       found for free or dirt cheap if you know where to look.  I found
>       just such a system for a friend for $30 Canadian.  You won't
>       be able to run memory-hungry apps like gimp on this.
Agreed.

> "Debian Jr. Light"
> 
> CPU:  Pentium 100
> RAM:  32M
> Disk: 1G
> Video:        4M 2D accelerated, 1024x768 SVGA
> Sound:        16-bit (e.g. SB16)
> Comments:
>       This is a nice, solid box that runs X well.  While not exactly
>       free, it's going to be within the reach of most families as a
>       system the whole family can use.  It will run many more things
>       than the "Ultra-light" but still won't run gimp or the 3D
>       hardware-accelerated stuff. Also, with that little memory,
>       Mozilla will be unusable.  If Mozilla is a requirement, use the
>       "Debian Jr." option instead, or run it on a better box and just
>       use this as an X server to connect to it.
Agreed.
 
> "Debian Jr."
> 
> CPU:  K6-2/300
Hmm, X and Gimp run fine on my K6/200 ...
I wouldn't name my box modern, but both are fast enough (else I would by
a new box.  However, Gnome is quite slow.
> RAM:  64M
> Disk: 2G
> Video:        16M 3D accelerated, 1024x768 SVGA
Another hmm, are there so many 3D accelerated things inside Debian???
In my opinion 8M (not accelerated) is enough (good old Millenium II?).
> Sound:        16-bit (e.g. SB16)
> Comments:
>       This is probably the bottom rung of what is considered "modern".
>       You can finally run gimp on this.  If you're on a strict budget
>       but still want to be able to try out some of the 3D stuff, it is a
>       start.  Although some of the more high-performance stuff is going
>       to require some upgrades.  This will run pretty well everything in
>       Debian Jr., (but not everything at once :)

May be you should add a "Debian Jr. heavy" with 3D acceleration and a
faster CPU with more RAM.
 
> My judgements as to what constitutes "minimum" are rather arbitrary.
> I would like to see various different configurations field-tested and
> get reports back about what works and what doesn't.
As I said I would decrease the requirements for a "normal" system, because
I think I'm running a "normal" system at home quite fine.

> things that work on their system.  There's nothing more frustrating than
> to download over a 56K modem a whole mess of stuff only to find that the
> coolest looking things won't run on your box at all.
Perhaps we should add a connection type.  A "heavy" system should perhaps
include ADSL (at least in Germany this will become standard for power
users) so people could easily upgrade to the latest system.

Kind regards

          Andreas.


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