-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, 31 Dec 2002 02:09, Karolina Lindqvist wrote: > I updated to latest debian "unstable" level, and my KDE does not work > anymore. These break-everything debian updates makes me kind of tired > sometimes. [...] > I really don't know what is updated that breaks everything, and don't feel > I want to bother with it right now. Other builds of KDE3 are out
On Tue, 31 Dec 2002 05:58, Ralf Nolden wrote: > Yes. I removed it to avoid further mess. Please be patient, I'm rebuilding > the branch from today. *sigh*. I'll upload as soon as packages are > finished. Ralf, Karolina, I would just like to publically thank you for the work you have done with the KDE3 branch and your Debian packages. Your efforts in putting together the Debian KDE 3 packages has been greatly appreciated by many Debian users who would otherwise not be able to access the KDE3 environment. I am a little concerned that you both seem to be trying to maintain the Debian KDE3 packages with some constraints which other Debian package maintainers do not have to put up with. These constraints are even more important given the size and complexity of KDE3. While I fully understand the gcc-3.2 issues managing a package suite the size of KDE3 requires management of a whole lot of issues other than just ABI compatability. You have both been doing a fantastic job trying to manage these other issues and the fact that many of us can run Debian KDE3 packages is testament to your management of these issues. Some of the Debian resources which are available to other packages, but the Debian KDE3 packages have been excluded from using include the Bug Tracking System, the Package tracking system, quality assurance web portal, Package mirrors, multi-architecture autobuilders as well as the management framework of having progressively tested distributions through; stable; testing; unstable and experimental distributions. Also not to mention a distributed approach to package management though a large number of package maintainers who can work together on achieving a common release/ software base. (Most third party KDE3 applications are no longer available as Debian packages.) With all these Debian resources available management of something as complex as KDE3 should be possible. However, without full access to the resources of Debian trying to maintain KDE3 as a single person effort is frustrating and complex. So again I would like to thank both of you for your efforts in attempting such a feat. I have made some suggestions in the past about creating a 'staging ground' for KDE3 packages (using the experimental distribution). A place were the full resources of Debian can be applied to the inclusion and development of a stable KDE. KDE 3.0 was released nine months ago, there has been extensive effort expended in the generation of Debian packages, but all of this effort has been constrained to preclude the full resources of Debian to the development of KDE3. The net result has been that KDE2.2 remains the officially supported version in Debian GNU/Linux. I for one, and I'm sure there would be many others in the Debian community, would be happy for either or both of you to become the official Debian maintainers for KDE. Goodness knows you have been doing that job in a defacto capacity for a number of months... If you get nothing else out this this message, please accept my thanks for your efforts, but surely as a Debian community we can do better.. Mark -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+EM8EoCzanz0IthIRAoZFAJ9eIfVYkjXvTCVlyRpzDBkbg3FwywCfSAqi PDYw3Q08+F2z0f8pSmBTcMg= =qtDJ -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
