Has gotten worse, I am afraid. OK, the panel crashes are my fault, apparently from kde3 applets I am using. They did give such problems in the very old kde4 versions but have been just fine until today's upgrade. Also, that 0,-54 position of the panel is now showing up and maybe causing crashes as well. I will deal with that by hand, I suppose.
Luckily, by /opt/kde3.5 is still around and I and other family users can run this without a hitch. This is really necessary when the new one is so volatile, almost snapshots rather than "milestones" or upgrades. I also tried the new kmail 4.074 which is actually based on an older version that the kde3.5.6! Looks fine but since it did not eat all the settings and canceled the sessions, I tried to reenter them. The configure kmail dialog is empty. So I removed kmail4.074 and my 3.5 kmail is still doing the job. I reentered the session info there or could have copied it from .kde. This one was yet not ready to post. Running kde3 again, it simply looks much nicer. Icon sizes and text labels work better, overall panel composition (ignoring the funny placements of the last couple of days) looks nicer. And the desktop functionality such as creating new device icons (and having them function) is still not there in kde4. All the resizing, rotations and other stuff is of limited value if one cannot get icon sizes and text labels to coordinate nicely. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

