On Thursday 12 July 2012 23:22:04 Bruce Sass wrote: > On July 12, 2012 02:10:33 PM Modestas Vainius wrote: > > Hello, > > > > On Thursday 12 July 2012 13:55:17 Bruce Sass wrote: > > > > 1) Trinity is not in Debian. > > > > > > True, but it has been packaged for Stable and Oldstable based systems > > > which makes it more likely to eventually appear in Debian than some > > > random piece of source out there. > > > > FIY, nobody stepped up to take over maintainance of Qt 3 in Debian. So > > you can basically forget about KDE 3.5 at this point. > > > > > > 2) Trinity is not and has never been KDE despite its origins > > > > > > Despite its orgins as a continuation of the KDE-3.5 codebase, eh. ;) > > > > Everything about KDE 3.5 is long dead. No matter how good or bad it was, > > its base system (Qt 3) is not supported anymore. > > Trinity uses the KDE3.5 code and maintain Qt3 themselves, so it is not long > dead nor unsupported.
Oh yes a handful of people are able to maintain 2 large projects with tons of code. Sure... > > > > > So unless any of above changes, this is not a place for "KDE is crap, > > > > Trinity rulez". > > > > > > Nowhere is a good place for: "KDE is crap, Trinity rulez"! > > > > > > However, given Trinity's origins (as KDE-3.5) and goals (be installed > > > alongside and work with KDE-4 and apps), debian-kde is the best place > > > within Debian for someone looking at introducing it into the archive to > > > bring it up-- > > > > We had this "discussion" before. It ended up in trolling and left a bad > > taste for everyone involved. > > That is unfortunate. :( > > > > this is where the DD/DM expertise wrt KDE-3.5 and 4 resides, and this > > > is the place with the most potential for finding interested users. > > > > If anyone wanted to bring trinity to Debian, (s)he would have already > > done it. But every maintainer understands that it is impossible to > > provide good packages for outdated and basically abondoned software. > > It may be outdated from the perspective of KDE, but if people are working > on it and maintaining its core then it is not abandoned. > > > All you do is encourage people to install random packages of bad quality. > > Eventually users will face problems and/or break systems, many have > > already broke. > > "random packages of bad quality"... we must be talking about two different > things... I am only considering Trinity--KDE-3.5, bits of KDE-4, and the > toolkit it is built upon--not arbitrary packages which depend on Qt3. > > - Bruce Martin Gräßlin recently wrote a nice blog entry about Trinity and its problems: http://blog.martin-graesslin.com/blog/2012/02/having-a-look-at-the-oldnew- desktop-environments/ -- Peter -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [email protected] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [email protected] Archive: http://lists.debian.org/[email protected]
