Hi Brad, Am Donnerstag 03 September 2015, 09:40:35 schrieb Brad Rogers: > On Thu, 03 Sep 2015 10:12:52 +0200 > Christian Hilberg <[email protected]> wrote: > > Hello Christian, > > >I guess it might have been wiser to let the transitions happen in > >unstable, since the massive breakage you mention was to be expected, > >and have the smaller issues and oversights ironed out in testing. > >This scheme worked out quite well in the past. > > Testing acquires packages from unstable when certain criteria are met. > It's all automatic, except for when a freeze occurs. That is to say, > nobody oversees it.
"It's all automatic" is the bit I missed. I was under the impression
that this would be true for experimental->unstable only and that the
packages in testing would then be marked as "ready for testing" manually,
once the breakage reports cease.
> You appear to expect somebody (well, several
> somebodies) to stem the tide to avoid problems.
"Expecting" is not what I meant to express, it is more like "being
under the [wrong, I know by now] impression that somebody does",
given the actually relatively low frequency of breakages in testing.
> Question is; How do they know what's going to cause problems? Answer; They
> don't/can't
> until the problem(s) actually arise. By then it's too late to avoid
> them.
Sure. Since there are the brave ones running unstable, I thought this
is where the biggest breakages were going to be caught and eliminated
before the packages entered testing.
> What you'd like to happen is never going to happen. So it comes down to
> three choices;
>
> 1) deal with it yourself
> 2) use stable
> 3) use another distro
>
> With snapshot.debian.org 1 is easy to do, 2 may require an install and
> 3 _will_ require an install.
>
> 1 is probably the easiest.
3) is not at all an option, sorry. ;-))
What I'm doing is using stable on my production machines and running
testing in a VM to follow up on what's going on and report issues as
I find them. It is not too much I can do there, but I try to add my
2 cent.
What had me puzzled a little was that I did not experience the KDE
packaged in testing being in the state it lately has been -- so that
is what may have misled my "expectations".
Kind regards,
Christian
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