Erwan David ha scritto: > Le 19/10/2021 à 21:52, Shai Berger a écrit : >> On Tue, 19 Oct 2021 16:37:14 +0200 (CEST) >> Borden <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> 17 Oct 2021, 07:16 by [email protected]: >>>> Taking note of the thread regarding updating to 5.23 in Sid, I'll be >>>> holding off for a few days until migration to testing is complete. >>>> >>> I'm sure this has been answered before, but this seems to be a >>> perennial issue wherever there's a major upgrade. Since Testing is >>> supposed to be free of known system-breaking errors, why can't the >>> packages be held back until the it's all ready? >>> >> This not only has been answered before in general -- it has been >> effectively discussed on this very list, only last week. >> >> As a user, you can use "apt upgrade" or "aptitude safe-upgrade". With >> either of these, you will not get half-system updates. If the whole >> upgrade is ready, you'll get it; if it isn't, you will get suggestions >> to either keep older versions of packages with updates, or drop the >> not-yet-updated packages. Then, you should choose what to do according >> to your taste and the selection of not-yet-updated packages. >> >> Asking for any non-stable flavor to act like stable is making the >> packagers' work harder, and IMO as a grateful user who is not involved >> in packaging, that is completely uncalled for. >> >> Hope this helps, >> Shai. >> >> > With apt upgrade on testing, you often get partial non working upgrade. > I was recently told to "only do complete upgarde", but when I asked how > to know the upgrade is compelte, I got no answer. > > Tonight apt list --upgradable lists me
Exactly: safe-upgrade is not safe when you need a bunch of packages to migrated at the same time. You would get a mix which is going to be worse. In many cases the complete upgrade is better. This is about Shai's point. That said, Erwin, I don't have an answer to your question. Probably stricter constraints in the packages may help, but not completely and it may be complicated to implement. -- Luigi
