On 2026-05-23 18:29, Soren Stoutner wrote:
On Friday, May 22, 2026 6:10:31 PM Mountain Standard Time Gary Dale wrote:
I'm running Debian/Forky on an AMD64 system. I'm using the Plasma 6
desktop over X.
For the past while (months at least) most dialogue windows show up
barely on the screen, at the bottom left of the display with just a
millimetre or two of the top of the window frame showing above the
bottom panel. This makes it hard to even grab the frame to make the
window visible.
I assume it has something to do with the very bad idea to remove
standard window behaviours, like remembering application sizes and
positions, and making us set them on a window by window basis as part of
the move to the already long in the tooth yet somehow still not ready
for prime time Wayland.
Maybe it's just me, but I really only want application windows to
remember where they were and what size they were. I expect movable tool
windows (e.g. Scribus properties) to do the same. Pop up dialogues I
want to be centred in the application that launched them (or in the
centre of the screen - just somewhere where I don't have to look for them).
I'm amazed that after 40 years of development, that I even have to ask
for a simple way to do something like that. Yet somehow we're now at the
point that I have to move applications to the correct virtual desktop
and close down multiple instances of other applications after logging in
because the window manager can't handle that anymore.
Most things I can live with, but how can get all the pop-up dialogues to
appear somewhere where I don't have spend time dragging them to a
visible place on the screen?
I am not seeing that behavior, but I am using Wayland. Have to tried to see
if this is an X11-specific problem or if something else is going on?
I have no idea. I know that I was playing around with some window
settings to try to get the application window to actually stay where ti
was when it was last closed. This itself is a new behaviour brought
about by attempts (by the developers) to make X and Wayland co-exist. It
was never a problem when we only had X. Apparently these days, having a
window remember where it was is a "special application setting" for many
applications.
I've tried Wayland from time to time but have yet to find it ready for
daily use. Too many things don't work properly on it even after years of
development.
I'm not even sure I like the general premise behind Wayland. The X-11
idea of separating the client from the server seems a lot more rational
than trying to squeeze a little more performance by combining the two.
But then I don't play games....
