On Sat, Jul 03, 2004 at 07:33:23PM +0200, Christoph Hellwig wrote: > On Wed, Jun 30, 2004 at 09:37:22AM +0200, Sven Luther wrote: > > I probably don't disagree, i only disagree with the dictatorial method, > > while this was supposed to be a team. > > If a team needs to discuss every little bit of work it's much less > effective then a single person doing the actual work. Given a +wontfix
Yeah, the problem is when one team member has the power to simply get the work another did discarded, then it is assuredly less productive. > tag can be easily removed and Herbert's comments in the bug support that > tag I didn't think a discussion would be warranted. If you want to > discuss we should do so now instead of starting the personal attack crap > again and again. Well, you don't like the patch, and Herbert didn't, now, the question is what about the functionality ? Do you also discard it because it is not the one true way of kernel booting, or do you find it acceptable ? Clearly many thing it would be an asset to debian. So, if you find the above patch unacceptable, a few line explaining why would be welcome here, at least for your fellow team members, but more important, this is a callout to discussing of a methodology to implement that desired feature, and a path to get it implemented eventually. No, sorry if i did clash with you previously on the marvell patch, i recognize that you where right about the new patch, but i still notice that you sent the patch only today, while the other driver could have been usefull since then, but this is an important question on how we will get our team to work in the future or not, and if this is going to be usefull and work, then you have to adapt a bit and play it team. And for your information, i was very very near last friday to thorw in the towel, and retire completely of debian kernel packaging after the way you and Jens have threated me, discarding my opinion without even thinking about it. The only think that stopped me a bit was that i am not entirely sure that you and Jens and William understand enough large scale needs of a debian kernel package, but i may have been wrong even with that. So, please let's stop being so agressive with us, and remember that this is supposed to be a team, which means that we have to play it in a team way too, even if this means sacrificing a bit of our efficiency to get the team in touch. Also notice that i submitted most of the pegasos patches upstream after a round of cleanup, on the linuxppc-dev list. I am a bit of a loss at what will happen with it now, and somehow fear that it may well rot on the mailing lists and never get in, but i will follow up on that on the linuxppc-dev mailing lists next week, or ask benh on irc. Friendly, Sven Luther
