> Who took that decision ? And even then, how would it be all that > different from the many alternative trees out there, like the -mm one > Christoph refered to me recently. > > Nothing is stoping us from presenting usefull stuff to our unstable > users while we are still working on it, is this not how free software > works ?
This may be okay for unstable, but I would love it if the next stable release of debian shipped a 'pristine' (except for non-distributable firmware) kernel.org kernel for ppc, x86, and amd64. Other arches will probably need some patch. Do we have a mechanism for dropping patches as we move from unstable->testing->stable ? Or a way to mark a package as "unstable only" ? > > 2) Getting the patch upstream allows upstream kernel hackers to review > > it. This is of real interest to our users, since we ensure that they > > will have a verified and accepted (read: supported) kernel. > > Except that it doesn't always work, often the upstream kernel hackers > don't even care to read the patch and you wait forever for comments. Sometimes, but I think we now have a better chance if we keep Viro, HCH, Benh, etc involved. If there is a specific patch that's submitted to kernel.org, and we get no response, by all means, include it in the debian package, but if we have a good reason to have it, and can make good technical points, we can include it.. but it's got to be discussed first. I looked over the amd64 patch, and it's all arch-specific code.. so I don't have a real problem with it, assumeing the changes are slated to show up in 2.6.8. -- -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Troy Benjegerdes 'da hozer' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Somone asked my why I work on this free (http://www.fsf.org/philosophy/) software stuff and not get a real job. Charles Shultz had the best answer: "Why do musicians compose symphonies and poets write poems? They do it because life wouldn't have any meaning for them if they didn't. That's why I draw cartoons. It's my life." -- Charles Shultz
