On Mon, 2026-08-10 at 10:13 +0200, Bastian Blank wrote: [...] > One of my secondary goals, not sure how possible they are within Debian, is > to split away rarely used modules, like most other distributions now do as > well. > This however now requires another image package to pull this in. > > So I propose that we also introduce meta packages for the modules. > This way we can offer the same guarantees then with the headers packages: > - All versioned packages are of the same version > - All meta packages are of the same version (and with it all the versioned > packages for this version) > > Users can select which modules package they want: the default one or the > cloud one, just by installing the corresponding meta package.
But modules are duplicated between those, right?
> They can also opt-in into the extra modules by installing this separate meta
> package.
Do you plan to extend kernel-wedge to do that, or are you thinking of
something a bit simpler?
> All packages are kept in sync by the base dependency.
>
> The package linux-image-cloud-amd64 is kept for correct upgrades.
>
> Bastian
>
> ## Proposed package layout
> ```
> Package: linux-image-7.2-amd64
> Depends:
> linux-binary-7.2-amd64 (= ${Source-Version}),
> linux-modules-7.2-amd64 (= ${Source-Version}) | linux-modules-main-7.2-amd64
> (= ${Source-Version}),
>
> Package: linux-image-amd64
> Depends:
> linux-base-amd64 (= ${Source-Version}),
> linux-image-7.2-amd64 (= ${Source-Version}),
> linux-modules-amd64 (= ${Source-Version}) | linux-modules-main-amd64 (=
> ${Source-Version}),
>
> Package: linux-image-cloud-amd64
> Depends:
> linux-base-amd64 (= ${Source-Version}),
> linux-image-7.2-amd64 (= ${Source-Version}),
> linux-modules-cloud-amd64 (= ${Source-Version})
>
> Package: linux-modules-7.2-amd64
> Depends:
> linux-base-7.2-amd64 (= ${Source-Version}),
> Provides:
> linux-modules-main-7.2-amd64 (= ${Source-Version}),
> Conflicts:
> linux-modules-main-7.2-amd64,
> Replaces:
> linux-modules-main-7.2-amd64,
>
> Package: linux-modules-cloud-7.2-amd64
> Depends:
> linux-base-7.2-amd64 (= ${Source-Version}),
> Provides:
> linux-modules-main-7.2-amd64 (= ${Source-Version}),
> Conflicts:
> linux-modules-main-7.2-amd64,
> Replaces:
> linux-modules-main-7.2-amd64,
[...]
I think the virtual packages make this unnecessarily confusing. To me,
linux-modules-7.2-amd64, as the default modules package for 7.2-amd64,
would also be seen as the "main" modules package. Why not use only the
real package names?
Ben.
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Ben Hutchings
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