Hi everybody! On Wednesday 22 June 2005 13:42, Koen Vermeer wrote: > On Wed, 2005-06-22 at 13:01 +0200, Benedek Frank wrote: > > I have realized that. I blew it away already. I will set up Sonypid which > > can enable Volume controlls to speial keys, so I dont need kmix anymore. > > (I guess this is how a newbie learns). > > Try installing xfce4-mixer, which, judging by the name, seems to be the > xfce-equivalent of kmix. > > You could also use xdm instead of kdm. Try sylpheed instead of kmail. > > Note that I don't use any of the suggested programs. I just looked for > xfce/lightweight programs that do approximately the same thing.
I have used xfce in the past and didn't like it a lot. For a no-frills but still nice graphical environment, I'd recommend you use icewm (included in Sarge) with xdm as a display manager. I am using that combination on one of my computers, a Pentium II 350 MHz with 64 (yes, 64) MB RAM, and it works quite well. As a terminal emulator, I recommend xterm. For the kind of machine you have, I'd forget about the KDE/Gnome alternatives. You could also want to try alsamixer, the ALSA mixer app (included in the alsa-utils package if i'm not wrong). It is a pseudo-GUI text-based app, very functional and nice (you also have a GUI interface, but it doesn't add much and I don't use it). For e-mail, I use Sylpheed, again with very good looks and performance, and again available as a Debian package. For the web, the best choice I can think of for a low-end computer is Opera (www.opera.com), which is small, very fast and very pleasant to use. Or you could use a text-only browser such as lynx or w3m. Since I don't use that machine for Office work, I can't tell you which office suite will work best. In my experience, OpenOffice is horribly slow to start in any computer, but performs quite decently afterwards; I don't know about other suites though. Depending on what do you need, you might want to try LaTeX instead of a WYSIWYG program; for me it works. > > How can I get rid of KDE and Gnome? apt-get uninstall kde gnome ?? > > I'd be a bit more cautious, because you might end up removing apps that > you still like to use, even if occasionally. You'll have to know what > packages are depending on either gnome or kde. I'm using aptitude, so > I'd start aptitude, remove gnome/kde and look what packages aptitude > wants to remove because of missing dependencies. Try to find > lightweight/XFCE alternatives for those packages, and then remove the > corresponding kde/gnome apps. If it is of any help, I never found a KDE/GNOME application I couldn't substitute for a lightweight one. But I agree that you should look closely at the dependencies in order to avoid surprises... Oh, and after removing a large number of apps you should use deborphan to find stale libraries that are no longer needed and only take up disk space. Now that's a program I like ;-). Hope this helps! - Urtzi - -- Urtzi Jauregi Fakulteta za Matematiko in Fiziko, Univerza v Ljubljani Jadranska 19, Si-1000 Ljubljana Slovenija Tel: ++386 01 540 13 53 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

