On Thu, Apr 17, 2003 at 10:59:31AM +0200, mi wrote: > Emma Jane Hogbin [Donnerstag, 17. April 2003 02:12]: > >| which says APM isn't supported. (Which means I need to stick with ACPI to > >| get my overclocked fan under control.) > Perhaps it wasn't the fan but the cpu who was overclocked ? > Anyway an acpi issue, then.
Either or, yes. The fan was on, but it may have been on because of something else. > >| Because I can't find what's triggering the suspend. :( > Hmm... how to find out ? > It would first find out if there's a timeout (idle time after that the event > occurs). Ah, yes. I thought I'd said it was when I was idle this was happening. As long as I'm working and not making supper or watching TV everything is/was fine. (I just took an extended break and the screen saver/blank screen came on, but the computer didn't freeze. I have the opportunity to give it even more idle time today and I'll report back on how it does.) > btw is the battery status recognized correctly (at least the fact it's > plugged into main) ? It sees the battery, but apparently the battery functions don't work: http://wojas.vvtp.tudelft.nl/acertm/ HMMMMM, it does for me though: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ more /proc/acpi/battery/0/status Present: yes State: discharging Present Rate: unknown Remaining Capacity: 2880 mAh Battery Voltage: 14800 mV [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ more /proc/acpi/battery/0/status Present: yes State: discharging Present Rate: unknown Remaining Capacity: 2840 mAh Battery Voltage: 14800 mV At least the remaining capacity gets smaller as time goes on. I'd love it if it told me in minutes how much time I have left, but let's not get ahead of ourselves. > ok...so i guess it's more for real acpi specialists ... sorry that i butted I > just like weird problems, true. I'm all for weird problems when they're someone else's. ;) > problem reports. However, my impression is the device table to be more > important with booting problems. I have the feeling it's a software problem from within all the things I know nothing about. Like a Power Management setting that I don't even know is set. This experience has *definitely* not been one for the plus side of debian. My biggest beef is that it *may* have been the double installation of apmd AND acpid which caused the conflict. Why wouldn't the install of acpid remove apmd? > Hey, there _must_ be some people around the world running exactly your laptop > with linux ! Some of them with acpi working .... *g* I think I'm the only English-speaking one, either that or they're all using sucky red hat or mandrake (or sucky suse -- my school is all suse based). ;) > Perhaps you ask the acpi (+/- developer) list if there are any problems known > special to yours. I will tonight if the removal of the apmd hasn't fixed things. > >| I'm not sure at what point the system suspends... > No idle-time ? The other two cases i know are battery low and cpu overheat. Ah, it is an idle thing, yes. Not anything to do with the battery because I'm usually plugged into a wall socket when it happens. Is there a good laptop/power management/settings HOWTO out there? I'll happily write one and post it here for comments if no one knows about one. > ... Anyway better you'd find the event handling ... i imagine somthing > similar to /etc/apm/ directory here. 'man acpid' must reveal this, if it > exists. But maybe all echo > /proc/acpi is done by 'frontends' now ? It is done by front ends. man acpid is virtually useless compared to man apmd. http://www.lab.inf.uc3m.es/cgi-bin/man2html?acpid+8 http://www.gsp.com/cgi-bin/man.cgi?section=8&topic=apmd (although I'm sure mine was more detailed than this one--which is pretty parse as well) > >| I had kde (just installed fluxconf which un-installed kde stuff). But the > >| power management tools were all turned OFF. (I checked.) > klaptopdaemon ? sleepd ? daemons are always suspisious. It's their nature ;-) /sigh/ I didn't know about those ones. This is what I have running right now: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ ps aux USER PID %CPU %MEM VSZ RSS TTY STAT START TIME COMMAND root 1 0.1 0.1 1216 456 ? S 10:08 0:04 init [2] root 2 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? SW 10:08 0:00 [keventd] root 3 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? SWN 10:08 0:00 [ksoftirqd_CPU0] root 4 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? SW 10:08 0:00 [kswapd] root 5 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? SW 10:08 0:00 [bdflush] root 6 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? SW 10:08 0:00 [kupdated] root 8 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? SW 10:08 0:00 [khubd] root 142 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? SW 10:08 0:00 [eth0] root 149 0.0 0.3 2104 824 ? S 10:09 0:00 dhclient -pf /var/run/dhclient.eth0.pid eth0 daemon 154 0.0 0.1 1316 388 ? S 10:09 0:00 [portmap] root 235 0.0 0.2 1980 756 ? S 10:09 0:00 /sbin/syslogd root 238 0.0 0.5 2096 1356 ? S 10:09 0:00 /sbin/klogd root 247 0.0 0.2 1216 528 ? S 10:09 0:00 /usr/sbin/acpid -c /etc/acpi/events -s /var/run/ root 261 0.0 1.1 6472 2960 ? S 10:09 0:00 /usr/sbin/cupsd root 279 0.0 0.2 1940 728 ? S 10:09 0:00 /usr/sbin/inetd root 298 0.0 0.4 2208 1152 ? S 10:09 0:00 /bin/sh /usr/bin/safe_mysqld mysql 333 0.0 1.8 36840 4748 ? S 10:09 0:00 [mysqld] mysql 334 0.0 1.8 36840 4748 ? S 10:09 0:00 [mysqld] mysql 335 0.0 1.8 36840 4748 ? S 10:09 0:00 [mysqld] mysql 338 0.0 1.8 36840 4748 ? S 10:09 0:00 [mysqld] root 363 0.0 0.2 1348 676 ? S 10:09 0:00 /sbin/cardmgr root 484 0.0 0.4 2432 1108 ? S 10:09 0:00 [master] postfix 487 0.0 0.3 2384 988 ? S 10:09 0:00 [pickup] postfix 488 0.0 0.4 2440 1068 ? S 10:09 0:00 [qmgr] root 499 0.0 1.6 5156 4148 ? S 10:09 0:00 /usr/bin/X11/xfs -daemon root 514 0.0 0.3 2108 836 ? S 10:09 0:00 /sbin/dhclient eth1 root 517 0.0 0.3 2072 860 ? S 10:09 0:00 /sbin/rpc.statd root 520 0.0 0.7 1928 1928 ? SL 10:09 0:00 /usr/sbin/ntpd daemon 529 0.0 0.2 1316 552 ? S 10:10 0:00 [atd] root 532 0.0 0.2 1396 652 ? S 10:10 0:00 /usr/sbin/cron root 536 0.0 1.6 138188 4148 ? S 10:10 0:00 /usr/sbin/apache root 548 0.0 0.2 2140 656 ? S 10:10 0:00 /usr/bin/kdm root 552 0.0 0.1 1200 428 tty1 S 10:10 0:00 /sbin/getty 38400 tty1 root 553 0.0 0.1 1200 428 tty2 S 10:10 0:00 /sbin/getty 38400 tty2 root 554 0.0 0.1 1200 428 tty3 S 10:10 0:00 /sbin/getty 38400 tty3 root 555 0.0 0.1 1200 428 tty4 S 10:10 0:00 /sbin/getty 38400 tty4 root 556 0.0 0.1 1200 428 tty5 S 10:10 0:00 /sbin/getty 38400 tty5 root 557 0.0 0.1 1200 428 tty6 S 10:10 0:00 /sbin/getty 38400 tty6 root 558 0.2 6.4 281652 16560 ? S<L 10:10 0:08 /usr/X11R6/bin/X -dpi 100 -nolisten tcp vt7 -aut www-data 559 0.0 1.6 138196 4160 ? S 10:10 0:00 [apache] www-data 560 0.0 1.6 138196 4160 ? S 10:10 0:00 [apache] www-data 561 0.0 1.6 138196 4160 ? S 10:10 0:00 [apache] www-data 562 0.0 1.6 138196 4160 ? S 10:10 0:00 [apache] www-data 563 0.0 1.6 138196 4160 ? S 10:10 0:00 [apache] root 564 0.0 0.4 2632 1264 ? S 10:10 0:00 -:0 emmajane 583 0.0 0.8 4020 2076 ? S 10:10 0:00 /usr/bin/fluxbox emmajane 610 0.0 0.2 2136 760 ? S 10:10 0:00 /usr/bin/ssh-agent /usr/bin/fluxbox emmajane 625 0.0 1.3 5948 3344 ? S 10:10 0:00 [Eterm] emmajane 626 0.0 0.5 2316 1364 pts/0 S 10:10 0:00 -bash emmajane 628 0.0 0.3 1896 988 ? S 10:10 0:00 fetchmail emmajane 630 0.0 0.7 3132 1936 pts/0 S 10:10 0:00 mutt emmajane 865 0.0 1.2 5896 3284 ? S 10:23 0:00 [Eterm] emmajane 866 0.0 0.5 2316 1364 pts/1 S 10:23 0:00 -bash emmajane 867 0.0 0.4 2124 1064 pts/1 S 10:23 0:00 /bin/sh /usr/local/phoenix/run-mozilla.sh /usr/l emmajane 873 0.5 11.5 44400 29512 pts/1 S 10:23 0:17 /usr/local/phoenix/phoenix-bin emmajane 875 0.0 11.5 44400 29512 pts/1 S 10:23 0:00 /usr/local/phoenix/phoenix-bin emmajane 876 0.0 11.5 44400 29512 pts/1 S 10:23 0:00 /usr/local/phoenix/phoenix-bin emmajane 877 0.0 11.5 44400 29512 pts/1 S 10:23 0:00 /usr/local/phoenix/phoenix-bin emmajane 879 0.0 11.5 44400 29512 pts/1 S 10:23 0:00 /usr/local/phoenix/phoenix-bin emmajane 892 0.0 11.5 44400 29512 pts/1 S 10:24 0:00 /usr/local/phoenix/phoenix-bin emmajane 1008 0.0 0.8 3148 2120 pts/0 S 10:53 0:01 vi -c :set textwidth=74 wrapmargin=4 nonumber /t emmajane 1015 0.0 1.3 5988 3392 ? S 10:56 0:00 [Eterm] emmajane 1016 0.0 0.5 2324 1404 pts/2 S 10:56 0:00 -bash postfix 1087 0.0 0.5 2684 1344 ? S 11:12 0:00 [smtpd] postfix 1088 0.0 0.3 2372 940 ? S 11:12 0:00 [proxymap] postfix 1089 0.0 0.4 2416 1032 ? S 11:12 0:00 [cleanup] postfix 1090 0.0 0.3 2388 960 ? S 11:12 0:00 [trivial-rewrite] postfix 1091 0.0 0.4 2600 1264 ? S 11:12 0:00 [local] postfix 1094 0.0 0.5 2680 1344 ? S 11:12 0:00 [smtpd] postfix 1095 0.0 0.4 2492 1248 ? S 11:12 0:00 [smtp] emmajane 1098 0.0 0.2 2492 760 pts/2 R 11:14 0:00 ps aux > >| Not sure. It was supposed to be KDE and the matrix screen saver but > >| something else was overriding it and giving a black screen. > Something ! It's funny, isn't it ;-) I'd love to know what it was...The problem I have with (linux?) is that there are so many packages that you have to know. I thought that debian was going to take care of the dependencies, but even it doesn't do a perfect job. e.g. how could I have more than one type of screen saver installed? If you already have one screen saver then you shouldn't have another. I realize that linux isn't *supposed* to be easy...I do think it should be easier though. (Although I realize it's always getting easier--I'm just flabbergasted at the amount of time it took me to even realize that my power management settings weren't right...) > Usually, I'd say this is the BIOS, then. What does it's config say ? Where do I look for that? > One more idea. There's a powermanagement-option in /etc/XF86Config-4. > It's for 'green' monitors, not for laptop-lcd's, afaik. But wdikaa... Don't see anything in there...but if you want to look too, it's here: http://xtrinsic.com/geek/code/XF86Config-4.txt > After all the problems i heard about acpi i hardly can believe that .... Probably they don't even realize it's not working. ;) > >| /proc/acpi/processor/0/info > It's no more called /proc/acpi/processor/CPU0/info ? Not on my machine... > If this is not existent i would wonder if the patching was alright... > ( btw. perhaps you try kernel 2.5.6 ? But i can't say what this would imply > to install, then. Perhaps someone else on this list is running a 2.5 kernel ?) It's very possible it's not correctly installed. The stuff I was reading didn't say anything about needed to patch the system, it just said that I needed a 2.4.20 kernel. > I think what we really do need is a dedicated laptop distro. > If i remember right, Werner Heuser proposed this already... I'd be hip to that. I wouldn't want to stray too far though. Most of my problems have been things that the main debian-user list has helped me with. thanks! emma -- Emma Jane Hogbin [[ 416 417 2868 ][ www.xtrinsic.com ]]
