Hi Bob,

Thanks for the very informative email.  I love to learn all this from you
nice people.  I really hope to master things fast enough so I can soon
contribute something to these very reach mailing lists.  I adore Debian and
the people who play around with it.

I will buy my new laptop (this or another model) within one or two weeks and
will post of my success or failure.

Nima


On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 11:35 PM, Bob Proulx <[email protected]> wrote:

> Nima Azarbayjany wrote:
> > I did in fact thought of doing this but it is not doable for me.  What is
> > the most general way of determining whether a specific piece of hardware
> is
> > supported by Debian?  Things on the web seem quite confusing to me.
>
> Debian uses the Linux kernel (the Linux in Debian GNU/Linux!) and
> therefore supports pretty much everything the upstream Linux kernel
> supports.  It is the same kernel.  That much is pretty simple.  The
> patches applied specifically for Debian are rather small by comparison
> to most other distros.
>
> The first point where it gets confusing is when a hardware driver's
> distribution license legally prevents it from being freely
> distributed.  Debian will be legally bound in that case and can't
> distribute the driver even if one exists.
>
> The second often confusing point is when a driver exists but only in a
> non-free format.  Again in this case Debian won't distribute it
> because it conflicts with a basic rule of Debian's "Social Contract"
> which is that "Debian will remain 100% free".  This is a stand that is
> taken because Debian feels it important enough to do.  As a political
> topic this issue gets a *lot* of discussion on the debian-devel
> mailing list, please let's not debate it here.  But please do read
> Debian's Social Contract to understand the published rules.
>
>  http://www.debian.org/social_contract
>
> Having said all of that the nvidia driver isn't a free driver.  This
> is why it can't be installed automatically at debian-installer time.
> It has previously been made available in the non-free repository.  You
> would need to specifically install it from non-free if you wanted it.
> The non-free repository officially isn't part of Debian.  It is a
> contribution.  But it is there nonetheless.  NVIDIA uses the linux
> driver themselves and therefore it has generally been of good quality.
>
> So in my mind the best question to ask is whether the nvidia driver in
> non-free is new enough to support the 9200M GS.  If so then it should
> work.  I would expect that it would work.  The PTS page at
> http://packages.qa.debian.org/n/nvidia-graphics-drivers.html lists
> the current version in Lenny at 173.14.09.  A posting here at
> http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=NjUxNA says that
> 173.14.05 and later should support GeForce 9 Mobile parts.  Better
> would be to find a report of someone else who has the same machine
> hardware and has reviewed it for compatibility.
>
> The wiki page at http://wiki.debian.org/DeviceDatabase/PCI lists the
> free nv driver (perhaps not what you want) as working on the 9200.
> The nvidia page at http://www.nvidia.com/object/IO_18897.html lists
> the GeForce 9200M GS 0x06E8 as supported.
>
> If you decide to try it please post your results.  Then when the
> next person searches for this combination they will get a review
> noting it as either success or failure.
>
> Good luck!
>
> Bob
>
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