On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 11:01, Josselin Mouette <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Le mercredi 29 octobre 2008 à 23:34 +0100, Francesco Poli a écrit : >> > 4. Any files that have been modified must carry notices stating the nature >> > of the change and the names of those who changed them. >> >> An obligation to maintain a sort of change-log is normally acceptable. >> The second part of the clause is more troublesome: depending on how it >> should be interpreted, it could meet the DFSG or fail to do so. >> If I am allowed to modify a file, document the nature of the change and >> put a nickname (or a pseudonym, or even the term "anonymous") as the >> name of the modifier, then I think this clause complies with the DFSG. >> >> On the other hand, if I am compelled to disclose my own identity in >> order to distribute a file modified by me, then I think that this >> clause fails DFSG#1, since being forced to disclose one's own identity >> can be a fee. >> See also http://lists.debian.org/debian-legal/2007/05/msg00015.html >> for a more detail explanation of the issue (found in another license). > > This may depend on local law, but I don't think this prevents you from > using a pseudonym as "name". A name is different from an identity, so I > don't think this clause causes any trouble. > >> > 6. Products derived from the Software may not be called "CodeIgniter", >> >> This is considered acceptable (as a compromise!) per DFSG#4. >> >> > nor may "CodeIgniter" appear in their name, without prior written >> > permission from EllisLab, Inc. >> >> IMHO, this goes beyond what is permitted (as a compromise!) by DFSG#4, >> since it forbids an infinite set of names, rather than a single one. >> I cannot use any of the following names for a derived product: >> CodeIgniterNG, CodeIgniter++, SuperCodeIgniter, TinyCodeIgniter, ... > > In all cases you will not be allowed to use such names unless you obtain > a trademark exception, so I don't think this is problematic either. > >> > INDEMNITY >> > You agree to indemnify and hold harmless the authors of the Software and >> > any contributors for any direct, indirect, incidental, or consequential >> > third-party claims, actions or suits, as well as any related expenses, >> > liabilities, damages, settlements or fees arising from your use or misuse >> > of the Software, or a violation of any terms of this license. >> >> Warning: indemnification clause: is it acceptable? >> It smells as non-free, but I would like to know the opinion of other >> debian-legal regulars... > > At least this is already accepted in main, see e.g. postfix. > > Cheers, > -- > .''`. > : :' : We are debian.org. Lower your prices, surrender your code. > `. `' We will add your hardware and software distinctiveness to > `- our own. Resistance is futile. >
I have notified Ellislab about this discussion, and asked them for their stance in the matter. hopefully a reply is made :) -- /Carl Fürstenberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
