Good compilation of software, thanks. I can throw j-lawyer.org (an open source case management licensed under AGPLv3) into the ring as an addition. I had spoken to Andreas earlier this year, and have made some progress in the meantime with regards to packaging (.deb available now, in addition to a more generic .sh installer).
Cheers, Jens Am 07.10.19 um 23:53 schrieb [email protected]: > > > hi all, > > I just found this email by a funny coincidence. I diedent use this > mail adress for years. > I had to smile a little, because years ago I also had the idea to > "look in" at Debian and offer me as head. > I always like to do this because then it's impossible to get another > head-of and the hirarchies stay flat so that the fun can stay too hahaha > Well, fun aside. > I want to narrow down the most wanted Deban-LEX project a bit. > If one wanted to make a debian blend out of this, then differs from > the previous blends probably in that in the area of Legaltech > hardly an internatinalization takes place. > As development cycles are quite slow for both Debian and lawyers, I > would say let's look at how the legal system works > in Europe, the US and the rest of the world maybe in 20 years. > With the DSGVO / GDPR we have the first comprehensive directive in the > EU, the first EU law of some relevance. > In fact, one could think that the decisions of the ECJ will create a > common law and eleminate most national differences > As far as the legal approach is concerned in this area, they are not > that big that you can at least try. > But I suspect that this national harmonization will not go so far as > to have unified networks or interfaces for Lawyers in 20 years, and > presumably there will not even be standardized interface descriptions > / data descriptions until then. > I think (Tele)Fax is loosing attention but is still important in > german legal system. Its often the only possibility to send > messages to state authorities in time by Fax, as E-Mail usually is > not admitted and the only other way is to use an 24h physical mailbox > outside the building which is difficult when you are somewhere else. > There is litterally no living communety wich sees any future in this > technique so projects like hylafax die out. I think I tried there > one provided version several times wich could not run because of a > bug and no one there who told anyone about this. > > > Any Fax Web application is unsecure, because you have to transport the > PDF data over internet, most often ony protected by SSL and the PDF > file will shortly be saved at the receiving server and > on the drive there. This is so bad, that most providers who offer > software-fax-printer dont even think about these files and that they > fall within the scope of GDPR/DSGVO. They argue that they are > communiaction providers and not content providers but this is untrue > when it comes to logfiles and these fax-files and also personal base > data. So this is gap of compliance and data securety by design and by > default as these comprehensive data seems not to exist for any known > by me provider. > > For legal data standards, there are in Germany a few approaches that > are well-intentioned, but let's face it, these are useless in practice > because they are either only one-sided > authority and/or only cover a small subarea and have already been made > from the point of view only to achieve a medium-term goal. > They limit new developments so that they could only be implimented as > a kind of "view", but nothing shoudl be build based on it. > Then there are huge differences in the national legal systems even as > far as the self-understanding of legal work is concerned. While in the > Anglo-American area > the caselaw is used (find a decision that was "the same" like here) > exactly this approach here in Germany actually spoiled and if it is > implemented by judges, that's always > a sign that individual rights are probably cut, because again was not > looked closely and should be made equal so that it goes fast for the > court but shouldnt. Here > In Germany, instead of case-law, there is the legal methodology. > These differences, which are huge in the application of law, will not > be so strong for a Debian blend at a first look, because that's what it is > as a personel work the lawyer remains while using a system. But it > goes deeper at secound look. > > What will remain different are connections to official communication > systems, (case and other law related) databases and I am not sure if a > data management system > for lawyers internationally could be developed in a way that it still > makes sense beacause it should be good peace of software too and might > get senseless overheads. > Michael Stehmann from Canzeley has already implemented nationally > different formatting of address data, but this is only a small part of > what then > exists as national differences. I also did so, as every Lawyer > sometimes wants to contact foreign attorneys or authorites. > Then there is the question as to which techniques are provided in the > Debian blend. > I am currently working with a Linux MINT LMDE 3, which is also based > on Debian. I had an approach with a Debian 9 before, which I build myself > from a headless system and then everything that is potentially > security relevant was gone. Unfortunately Java is needed anyway by the > German beA system, > I wrote letters at time years ago to prevent this but never got an > answer and feel some cind of alone and frustrated as the startup of it > really messed and got worse then I expected when I wrote my letters. > Today, after I only work with LUKS encrypted virtual machines based on > debian, I would not put any more data directly on a host system > beacause of practical needs. I dont use network / server with this > mashine. > > This could fit common needs of a blend, as it should not make any > difference where it is installed. > > It's very handy if you have an installation with 15-40GB on it all and > you can just copy over Thunderbold 3 with 1GB / second the wohle > virtual disk > or you work directly on an external NVMe SSD with few of these systems > on it. > > I have included email with Thunderbird, where I am currently migrating > e-mail into my law firm system so that they can be automatically > assigned and appear in the mandates. > In addition, I am not so good with the Thunderbird spam filter and > because I work with catch all e-mails that I use only 1x is that just > easier to implement with my own code / spam filters / receive system. > > I have the following programs installed (sometimes as an approach for > discussion) > - efax-gtk (is hardly used) I failed because I set up a hylafax and > then run on Voip at O2, so ring through yes, fax no and that with both > standard transmission standards > - Linphone (theoretically goes over Voip phone but I do not use it > anymore) > - Signal / Chromium (I do not trust but more than WhatsApp, allegedly, > the operator does not give data to the US government or does not store > them, it would be better if they can not safe any data by architecture > because they include their own key locally) > - Firefox with some shortcuts to pages I usw as Lawyer > - Thunderbird with Enigmail (Enigmail PGP I use isolated, in the past > there were sometimes problems with updates where then nothing worked) > - WebHHTPTrack to locally save websites as evidence > - beA Securety Client with its own Java library (German "lawyer's mail") > - Jameica / Hibiscus (online banking, unfortunately PINs can not be > stored in the software, so it is not practical for many accounts) > - Open office writer > - gscan2pdf (very functional and practical scan software which > supports different pdf libs but rarely causes problems, especially if > scanners are not detected wich works on xsane) > - of course my own unpublished law firm software, which does all the > rest and is a big project for itself > > I have set it up so that the browsers have a non-existent local proxy > set up and only the websites I have specified in a whitelist are > enabled, and plugins are installed, > which prevent the loading of scripts, flash, etc. these could be > eventually be eleminated or turnd off as they are a risk for themselfes > > Hardware: > Rainer SCT chip card reader > > Propreritary software > brother printer driver / scanner driver / fax driver > > For backups I use rsync some bash code and cron > > Within the framework of GDPR / DSGVO, all accesses to the system > should be logged, especially if several users have access, ideally > data should also be deleted from the backups at the time of deletion, > etc. etc. etc.... > > So building a Debian Flavor would mean: > make it compliant for use in pracis, things never anyone thought about! > > > In addition I use an E-Mail Server for receiving with postfix and > dovecot. This is not part of my working system as it stays at one > place while the working system gets copied and goes where I go. > For some cases I use an proxy server as well, so I have different > network settings. > > > > Best regards > Michael Guck > > > > > > Andreas Tille schrieb am 23.07.2019 18:50 (GMT +02:00): > > Hi, > > On Mon, Jul 22, 2019 at 12:41:03PM -0300, [email protected] wrote: > > Good morning Andreas, since the debianlex project was abandoned, i have > the > > intention to assume it, > > What is your actual plan to resume it? > > > trying in the meantime to get together a team of lawyers that are > specialists > > in digital law to aid me, so, it is possible to make me the head of that > > project? > > In Debian you usually become the head of a group by just doing something > in the first place and other agree that it is sensible. You do not > become head by asking into the void whether you can be the head. Just > do something, stir some discussion on the debian-lex mailing list, > package something that is relevant for lawyers or something like this. > If I were you I would start with an introduction on the debian-lex > mailing list. > > > the contacts in debianlex page are offline since last updates, they dont > > asnwer. > > This is what I expected. > > Kind regards > > Andreas. > > PS: Since several people in the past approached me by private mail I'd > like to tell in advance that there is no point in private conversation. > Please always stick to open discussion on the mailing list - I have no > private hints to share. > > -- > http://fam-tille.de > Viele Grüsse, Jens Kutschke (j-lawyer.org) -- https://www.j-lawyer.org Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/jlawyerorg Twitter: https://twitter.com/jlawyerorg Google+: https://plus.google.com/b/101818317409234403784/101818317409234403784
