hi

Howto create live hdd with just live installer in a startup menu, I mean 
without a "normal" debian installer?


According to the live manual: 

"Live" Debian Installer: This is a Debian Live image with a separate kernel and 
initrd which (when selected from the appropriate bootloader) launches into an 
instance of the Debian Installer.
Installation will proceed in an identical fashion to the "normal" installation 
described above, but at the actual package installation stage, instead of using 
debootstrap to fetch and install packages, the live filesystem image is copied 
to the target. This is achieved with a special udeb called live-installer.
After this stage, the Debian Installer continues as normal, installing and 
configuring items such as bootloaders and local users, etc.
Note: to support both normal and live installer entries in the bootloader of 
the same live medium, you must disable live-installer by preseeding 
live-installer/enable=false."

but I cannot find howto to get live installer only in the startup menu. 

greetings
christoph


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