Hi Andreas, Andreas Tille <[email protected]> wrote: [..] > On Thu, Nov 03, 2011 at 09:06:46PM +0100, Mathieu Malaterre wrote: >> On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 5:14 PM, Mark Longair >> <[email protected]> wrote: [...] >> > * I've tried as far as possible to replace components from Fiji >> > with dependencies on existing Debian packages. However, >> > whenever developers update libraries in Fiji to versions that >> > are later than those packaged in Debian, I have to switch >> > back to creating a Fiji-specific version of that package. >> > This is the case, for example, with Weka, Jython, jfreechart >> > and commons-math. >> >> Did you fill bug reports in debian bts for those issues ? > > It might be that it creates to much work for a single person like Mark > to continuosely file bug reports. I have no idea how frequently these > dependencies are changing and in how far this really influences the > usability of Fiji. I'd personally say that I would be quite annoyed if > I would continuosely be forced to adapt to new versions of software > because these might change interfaces or whatever. > > However, if it turns out that we could spot some specific packages which > are not appropriately maintained inside Debian we could try to take over > team maintenance and take over responsibility on our own to make the > package better usable for the purpose we want to finally approach: > Making the best software for medical care available to our users right > inside Debian. So Mark, if you say: well, package A, B and C are > usually OK, but package X and Y are constantly lagging behind what I > would need for Fiji, please do not hesitate to pronounce this here.
In fact, when I checked these cases again, the problem here is not that the right package versions don't exist in Debian, it's that I was aiming to still support the last LTS release of Ubuntu (10.04 Lucid Lynx), which in some cases only has very old versions of the dependent packages. I should probably just build a separate version of the packages for Lucid. :( [..] >> > packages it doesn't make sense that they should be built out of >> > the Fiji source tree anyway (e.g. bio-formats, RSyntaxTextArea, >> > AutoComplete) since they're generically useful libraries outside >> > context of Fiji. >> >> How many people are behind the fiji effort ? Are they mostly >> debian-based system users ? Jumping in the debian-med effort is >> relatively easy. > > Good questions. We can not stress frequently enough that in the past it > worked quite good to teach and help interested persons (upstream > developers) to build packages and help them to get it finally to the > official mirror. There are about 10 core contributors to Fiji, who are mostly Linux or Mac users. (There are a couple who use Windows.) However, all the developers work directly from git clones rather than using the Debian-packaged versions. Although the other developers are supportive of what I'm trying to do, I think I'm the only person who is actively interested in working on Debian packaging. best regards, mark -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [email protected] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [email protected] Archive: http://lists.debian.org/[email protected]
