Hi Andreas,

First of all,


    My apologies for preaching to the choir...  :-)


     I'm just arriving full of motivation from the
     recent VistA Community Meeting... and
     forgot that there is no need to preach in
     the debian-med list.    Sorry about that.


On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 3:04 AM, Andreas Tille <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi Luis,
>
> ...
>


> > The Open Source implementation of M/MUMPS that can
> > be used in Linux is FIS-GT.M:
> >
> >                       http://sourceforge.net/projects/fis-gtm/
> >
> > but it currently doesn't have a Debian package for it...
>
> That's right and we should definitely work on it.  I can confirm
> that we even started to work on it at
>
>   svn://svn.debian.org/svn/debian-med/trunk/packages/fis-gtm
>
>

This is great to hear.
I was not aware of this effort.



> However the work is complex and needs manpower.  If you would like to
> dive a bit into Debian packaging where we are happy to guide you
> patiently into I'm quite positive that we can finally succeede.  You
> might like to try Google for
>
>  site:lists.debian.org/debian-med fis gtm
>
> and you can get some kind of discussion status.  BTW, you contacted the
> Debian Med developer list which is fine.  However, the discussion
> regarding VistA and fis-gtm happened on our general list[1] and it seems
> reasonable to keep the discussion there until we finally come to the
> very technical bits.  I'd suggest you subscribe this list to learn a
> bit more about Debian Med and to make sure you will not miss anything
> about GT.M and VistA packaging.
>
>
Excellent,
I'll subscribe and will follow the thread there.



> > Making a Debian package for FIS-GT.M will greatly
> > facilitate its adoption by a larger community of developers.
>
> We are pretty aware of this and if you ask me we should start *now* with
> the work needed on finalising the packaging.  As you might know fis-gtm
> needs kind of a bootstraping procedure which makes the integration into
> Debian a bit more complex.  So we need to prepare it now to make sure it
> can be included into the next release.  (It has some reason that fis-gtm
> is listed as most wanted packages in the Debian Med HIS section[2].)
>
>
Excellent,
I'm happy to contribute to make this happen.
We are also lucky to have the collaboration
of GT.M   Gurus at fisglobal.


>
> >            Would any one of you be willing
> >            to become a packager for FIS-GT.M ?
>
> You mean one of those 3,000 developers mentioned above?  I hope so!  As
> I said:  We prepared something but nobody in our team has any idea about
> Mumps nor VistA and we have no clue how to test whether it works.  We
> need some person with a strong interest (according to your e-mail like
> you) in a Debian package, a solid knowledge about the program itself and
> the willingness to dive a slight bit into Debian packaging - which is
> really not that hard if you are a bit comfortable with shell and
> Makefile programming.  Our role is to guide you patiently into the
> packaging process, fix bugs you might have done and complete things
> inside the packaging which you might consider to complicated.  This
> strategy has worked in the past in several cases (we were starting to
> take influence on the future some years ago which is now history :-)).
>
>

I'm happy to work on the packaging,
and to collaborate with others to make it happen.

It will really make a great difference in M adoption,
and on generating momentum for VistA.



> After introducing you a bit into the relation of Debian Med and VistA
> what about the following work plan to make the turn from plain chatting
> to real coding.


Yes !


> You or an other Vista developer volunteers to work
> inside the Debian Med team and takes over responsibility for the fis-gtm
> packages.  This developer should follow the following procedure:
>
>  0. Read our policy document carefully[6].  Most knowledge including
>     links you might need is condensed there
>  1. Create an account on http://alioth.debian.org


Done, thanks for the instructions


>  2. Once the account is enabled register for Debian Med team which
>     will grant commit permissions to the packaging repositories
>  3. Check out the relevant parts for fis-gtm (see above)
>  4. Try to build the packages using this stuff.
>  5. Test the packages
>  6. Ask us for uploading the packages once they are considered
>     ready.
>
> For all steps: Please consult the mailing list for anything that might
> remain unclear.  We are open and helpful.  Just trust us that we are on
> the same side and very interested but we can not do the thing alone.
>
>
I'll follow up with these steps.



> You might be interested in reading my next mail to the mailing list which
> is not directly about VistA but I have also VistA in mind.
>
>
Certainly,

Many thanks for all the instructions and guidance.

This is all really helpful.


     Best,


          Luis


----------------------------------

> Kind regards
>
>        Andreas.
>
> [1] http://lists.debian.org/debian-med
> [2] http://wiki.debian.org/DebianMedTodo#Developers
> [3] http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2002/01/msg00454.html
> [4]
> http://web.archive.org/web/20020824182044/http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-med/his
> [5] http://debian-med.alioth.debian.org/tasks/his
> [6] http://debian-med.alioth.debian.org/docs/policy.html
>
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> http://fam-tille.de
>

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