Dear Raghava,
in addition to Steffen I'd mention that a very simple step could help
both sides: If you would publish your source packages (*.dsc,
*.debian.tar.gz) or some repository where you maintain the sources could
enable us to include your work right into Debian where you can in turn
base the next release of your distribution on. I can only repeat:
*Because* of a lack of manpower you should try to cooperate and consider
the successful trail BioLinux went for the very same reason.
Kind regards
Andreas.
On Mon, Oct 19, 2015 at 03:21:33AM +0200, Steffen Möller wrote:
> Dear Dr Raghava,
>
> The situation you are describing sounds very familiar. And all
> you write supports this idea of
>
> - using the Debian/Ubuntu/Bio-Linux packages for Bioinformatics
> that are already provided, i.e. do not package anything
> redundant
>
> - focus resources by self-adding the .deb files of particular
> demand that are not yet redistributed by the distribution
>
> The packages gathered via Debian Med may be interpreted as a basis
> of your distribution that your distro extends for the best-possible
> benefit of your users. Consequently, even when you do not find the time
> yourself to perform an update of your packages, chances are high that
> the orchestrated-by-Debian-Med regular Bioinformatics package of your
> distribution have been updated. Forwarding those will be of immediate
> value to your users without respective efforts for maintenance on your side.
>
> Another positive aspect of the Debian Med effort is that your
> "more-biologist" group members find someone to partner up for the
> creation of a package. And it is fun, too. Software redistributed
> by Debian Med is shown here http://blends.debian.org/med/tasks/index
>
> With kind regards,
>
> Steffen Möller
>
>
> On 18.10.2015 11:26, G. P. S. Raghava wrote:
> > Dear Andreasa
> > Thanks for email, You are right we have not added anything in last two
> > years. It is all due to time constrained, my team is mainly dominated by
> > biologist rather than computer professional. My team is busy in developing
> > web-based services (average 15 servers per year) which is part of there
> > research publications. Last time two year back, we spend nearly three
> > months to develop OSDDlinux. I am trying to get help from companies but not
> > getting help in packaging. Hope in few months we will have some progress as
> > we are planing to focus again on OSDDlinux (adding more software and
> > packaging software).
> >
> >
> > With best wishes & regards
> >
> > Raghava
> > ======================================================
> > # Dr G P S Raghava (FASc, FNASc), Head Bioinformatics Centre #
> > # Institute of Microbial Technology, Sector-39A, Chandigarh, India #
> > # Phone: +91-172-2690557, Fax: +91-172-2690632 #
> > # Eadd: http://www.imtech.res.in/raghava/ [email protected] #
> > #=====================================================
> > Wiki: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gajendra_Pal_Singh_Raghava
> > GS: http://scholar.google.co.in/citations?hl=en&user=XK5GUiYAAAAJ
> >
> >
> >
> > On 18-Oct-2015, at 11:55, Andreas Tille <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > Hi again,
> >
> > I would really like to refresh this mail exchange from years ago. I
> > keep on thinking that OSDDLinux and Debian could work together as
> > similarly successfully as BioLinux and Debian. I noticed that the
> > packages in your package pool[1] were not updated nearly two years. Is
> > this a sign of some kind of stable release and you have a development
> > area somewhere? Do you have some repository of source packages where we
> > could work with and start some integration into Debian? Please consider
> > cooperation with Debian to join manpower.
> >
> > Kind regards
> >
> > Andreas.
> >
> > [1] http://osddlinux.osdd.net/repo/ngs/
> >
> > On Sun, Feb 02, 2014 at 06:03:00PM +0100, Andreas Tille wrote:
> >> Hi again,
> >>
> >> we had a quite successful sprint and I teached packaging to five people
> >> which are now busy packaging their own stuff. This all goes into
> >> official Debian and finally also Ubuntu + BioLinux will profit from
> >> this. I'm not sure whether I was clear in my first contact to you and
> >> the OSDDlinux team so I try to rephrase my plan: We could integrate all
> >> programs you are using in OSDDlinux (provided they have a free license)
> >> straight into Debian which might save you a lot of extra work. The way
> >> to do this is to inject your packaging in our common platform
> >> alioth.debian.org and than Debian Developers from Debian Med team can
> >> sponsor this to official Debian mirror after checking its policy
> >> conformity. This workflow is quite established with BioLinux and you
> >> youst need to confirm that you like this plan and we will work out
> >> the technical details how to go from here.
> >>
> >> Kind regards
> >>
> >> Andreas.
> >>
> >> On Thu, Jan 30, 2014 at 08:17:09PM +0100, Andreas Tille wrote:
> >>> Hi Raghava,
> >>>
> >>> considering that the Debian Med sprint will start tomorrow (I'm just on
> >>> my way to Aberdeen) nobody from your team will join. I'd suggest we
> >>> could meet in IRC to find some way to work together efficiently to make
> >>> sure Debian Med can support your work as best as possible.
> >>>
> >>> Kind regards
> >>>
> >>> Andreas.
> >>>
> >>> On Tue, Oct 15, 2013 at 10:20:08PM +0530, G P S Raghava wrote:
> >>>> Dear Andreas
> >>>> Thanks for your email and offer for cooperation. We are very much
> >>>> interested to work with debian-med and biolinux, as all three debian-med
> >>>> , biolinux and OSDDlinux have common object to provide service to the
> >>>> scientific community. I will write detail email to you soon.
> >>>>
> >>>> With best wishes & regards
> >>>>
> >>>> Raghava
> >>>> #=========================================================#
> >>>> # Dr G P S Raghava FASc, FNASc, Scientist & Head Bioinformatics Centre #
> >>>> # CSIR- Institute of Microbial Technology, Sector-39A, Chandigarh, India
> >>>> #
> >>>> # Phone: +91-172-2690557, 0172-6665450 ; Fax: +91-172-2690632 #
> >>>> # Eadd: http://www.imtech.res.in/raghava/ Email: [email protected]
> >>>> #
> >>>> #=========================================================#
> >>>>
> >>>> Google Scholar:
> >>>> http://scholar.google.co.in/citations?user=XK5GUiYAAAAJ&hl=en
> >>>>
> >>>> On 15-Oct-2013, at 2:36 PM, Andreas Tille wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> Hi,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I'm contacting you on behalf of the Debian Med team which has the goal
> >>>>> to package any Free Software that is relevant for medical care straight
> >>>>> into Debian.[1]
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Your OSDDlinux looks like an exciting implementation of our idea to
> >>>>> bring Debian to the end user. Our goal is to prepare as much as
> >>>>> possible straight into Debian to make your work as easy as possible - in
> >>>>> an optimal situation you should be able to autogenerate your
> >>>>> distribution straight from the Debian package pool so your content is
> >>>>> actually Debian and you just need to care for some user oriented
> >>>>> customisation, support and contact to your users. I hope you might like
> >>>>> this idea - at least the BioLinux distriution[2] which in principle has
> >>>>> the very same goal like you just for a different target user group is
> >>>>> happy about the cooperation we established since more than three years.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> If you look at our so called web sentinel for instance on the biology
> >>>>> section[3] you will find a lot of matches to your NGS page[4] (and on
> >>>>> other pages - just to mention an example). Our goal would be to work
> >>>>> on the missings between your page and our software pool to enable you
> >>>>> to profit directly from the work done inside Debian.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> The cooperation with BioLinux developers was established in a way that
> >>>>> we are working inside the very same version control system(s - we are
> >>>>> using Git or SVN at the developers preference). So changes made in
> >>>>> BioLinux will immediately forewardet into the Debian package and if a
> >>>>> Debian developer changes something this directly leads to an enhancement
> >>>>> inside BioLinux. We regard this as a win-win-situation to save time and
> >>>>> man power on both sides.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> If you like to learn more about this you are kindly invited to sign into
> >>>>> the Debian Med mailing list[5] and ask any relevant question there or
> >>>>> even simply raise our awareness to some of your high priority package of
> >>>>> yours to ask us for inclusion into Debian.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Moreover there is an excellent chance to meet Debian Med and BioLinux
> >>>>> developers in person because we will have our yearly Sprint meeting in
> >>>>> end of January next year in Aberdeen.[6] This meetings have some
> >>>>> tradition[7] in our small community and leaded to the effect that our
> >>>>> community was developing way better than before. If you look at the
> >>>>> Debian team analysis graphs that are collected here[8] you see a general
> >>>>> pattern of higher activity since 2011 - which was the time when we had
> >>>>> our first meeting. We would like to invite you to become part of this
> >>>>> development so if at least one of your developers would like to join
> >>>>> this could really be in the interest of both parties.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Kind regards and thanks for your contribution to Free Software
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Andreas.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> [1] http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-med
> >>>>> [2] http://nebc.nerc.ac.uk/tools/bio-linux/
> >>>>> [3] http://debian-med.alioth.debian.org/tasks/bio
> >>>>> [4] http://osddlinux.osdd.net/ngs.php
> >>>>> [5] http://lists.debian.org/debian-med
> >>>>> [6] https://wiki.debian.org/DebianMed/Meeting/Aberdeen2014
> >>>>> [7] https://wiki.debian.org/DebianMed/Meeting
> >>>>> [8] http://debian-med.debian.net/
> >>>>>
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