Dear Andreas,

I've asked Steve  Henikoff to check with FHCRC's Technology Transfer office
to see if we can change the license to GNU-GPL. (The latest version of SIFT
(SIFT 4 Genomes is a hybrid license of GNU-GPL and FHCRC), so this will
simplify things later. Please email me in 2 weeks time if you haven't heard
from me.

Also, because I wrote the SIFT algorithm, I'd like to benchmark and check
the code that debian-med packages. I think there are several version of
SIFT out there. What is the latest release version that you'd like to use?

Thanks,
Pauline

On Wed, Jan 13, 2016 at 3:25 PM, Andreas Tille <[email protected]> wrote:

> Dear Pauline,
>
> On Wed, Jan 13, 2016 at 09:59:14AM +0800, Pauline Ng wrote:
> > The Henikoffs and I received your email about regarding changing the
> > license of blimps and SIFT to GPL. We are willing to consider it if SIFT
> > can be easily distributed. Do you have a working version of SIFT on
> > debian?
>
> Currently version 4.0.3b is packaged and I know that this is not the
> latest released version.  One reason for this lag behind is the fact
> that SIFT remains in non-free which does not receive the apropriate care
> - thus the motivation for my mail to tackle the latest version if there
> would be a free license.
>
> > My old version of SIFT uses a very old version of blast and calls a
> binary
> > of blimps --I think the source code has been since lost.
>
> The Debian version of SIFT is linked against a separately packaged
> version of blimps 3.9.  I noticed that the downloadable tarball
> sift5.2.2.tar.gz contains a dir blimps/blimps with C sources (and even
> *.o files which should not be distributed inside a tarball).  I also see
> a dir blimps/bin which we would clean up from the tarball since we
> usually do not ship precompiled binaries in the source tarball.
>
> > If you can can confirm that SIFT works in debian, then Dr. Henikoff will
> > talk to the FHCRC tech transfer office to start the process.
>
> I can confirm that the Debian Med team got the old version of SIFT
> working and we will try or best to get also the latest version working.
> However, please make sure that the license change is not only for the
> purpose of distribution inside Debian but rather in general since a
> specific free Debian license is also considered as non-free by the
> Debian Free Software Guidelines.
>
> > Thanks,
> > Pauline
>
> Thanks a lot for your fast response
>
>          Andreas.
>
> > Hello,
> >
> >
> >
> > I'm writing you on behalf of the Debian Med team which is a group inside
> > Debian with the objective to make Debian the best distribution for
> biology
> > and medical care.  We try to package free software that is relevant in
> > these fields for main Debian.
> >
> >
> >
> > You might know that there are packages of blimps and sift for some time
> > which are not part of the official Debian distribution due to its license
> > which is considered non-free since it violates the Debian Free Software
> > Guidelines[1].  We would really make blimps and sift part of the official
> > Debian distribution which has several advantages for users as well even
> for
> > you as developers since the wider spreading of your code might lead to
> > enhancements that will be send to you.
> >
> >
> >
> > We would like you to reconsider the restriction under the following
> >
> > considerations:
> >
> >
> >
> >  - Did you earned a mentionable amount of money by selling mssstest
> >
> >    yourself?
> >
> >  - Do you consider that anybody else would earn a mentionable amount
> >
> >    of money by selling a freely licensed program?
> >
> >  - Would you agree that it is in the interest of mssstest code and
> >
> >    the users to have a free distribution inside Debian?
> >
> >
> >
> > Please keep in mind that the restriction implies that the programs cannot
> > be included as part of a distribution that is sold (even if it's just to
> > compensate for the cost of the storage media).  Your intention is almost
> > certainly to prevent people to sell the program standalone.
> >
> >
> >
> > To our experience authors who used this kind of license (for instance Joe
> > Felsenstein as author of PHYLIP) did not considered this as a success.
> May
> > be you reconsider the license to choose some free license like GPL; BSD
> or
> > MPL - feel free to discuss this here on our mailing list.
> >
> >
> >
> > It would be great if you would simply drop the restriction and enable us
> to
> > integrate blimps and sift into Debian properly.
> >
> >
> >
> > Kind regards
> >
> >
> >
> >       Andreas.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > [1] https://www.debian.org/social_contract#guidelines
> >
> >
> >
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