> On 26 Feb 2023, at 20:42, Victor Westerhuis <[email protected]> wrote: > > Barry Scott <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> schreef > op 26 februari 2023 21:36:20 CET: >> >> >>> On 26 Feb 2023, at 14:06, Danial Behzadi دانیال بهزادی >>> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>> >>> That's the new intended behavior. I you want non-debian python packages, >>> install them in a non-debian python via virtual environments. >> >> The idea is to prevent installing into /usr not preventing install in $USER >> I hope. > According to the PEP it's both, and it actually makes sense. Python does not > distinguish between packages in system-wide and user-specific locations.
> > Allowing non-virtualized installation of Python packages into the > user-specific location could therefore break Python programs and libraries > installed by apt/dpkg. On Fedora they use the -s option for all system apps that use python to prevent breakage from user installed packages. I have been living in that happy world where pip install --user was safe to use. > > Virtualized installations do not cause issues and are still allowed using, > for example, pipx or raw venvs. I am aware of that, but don't reach for venv for simple stuff. Clearly I'm going to have to figure out how to do this for my use case now. Barry >> >> I think this is a major bug. >> >> Barry >> >> >> >>> >>> >> >>> >>> در ۲۶ فوریهٔ ۲۰۲۳ ۱۰:۰۴:۲۰ (UTC)، Barry Scott <[email protected]> نوشت: >>>> I have been using the following to add useful python based commands to my >>>> user locally: >>>> >>>> $ python3 -m pip install --user <package> >>>> >>>> For install I get this: >>>> >>>> $ python3 -m pip install --user colour-text >>>> error: externally-managed-environment >>>> >>>> × This environment is externally managed >>>> ╰─> To install Python packages system-wide, try apt install >>>> python3-xyz, where xyz is the package you are trying to >>>> install. >>>> >>>> If you wish to install a non-Debian-packaged Python package, >>>> create a virtual environment using python3 -m venv path/to/venv. >>>> Then use path/to/venv/bin/python and path/to/venv/bin/pip. Make >>>> sure you have python3-full installed. >>>> >>>> If you wish to install a non-Debian packaged Python application, >>>> it may be easiest to use pipx install xyz, which will manage a >>>> virtual environment for you. Make sure you have pipx installed. >>>> >>>> See /usr/share/doc/python3.11/README.venv for more information. >>>> >>>> note: If you believe this is a mistake, please contact your Python >>>> installation or OS distribution provider. You can override this, at the >>>> risk of breaking your Python installation or OS, by passing >>>> --break-system-packages. >>>> hint: See PEP 668 for the detailed specification. >>>> >>>> This look wrong to me as I am not installing into the systems >>>> site-packages. >>>> >>>> Barry >>>> >> > > > -- > Groet, Regards, > > Victor Westerhuis
