Hey Richard, After my last email to Neil and the mailing list I have found the following link: http://webapps-common.alioth.debian.org/draft/html/index.html Which is actually the whole essence of this conversation, it would have been suffice to simply let me know about this webapps documentation which I would have gone through and create the package accordingly (or at least attempt to) but for some reason which I really, honestly, don't understand Neil hasn't done that. I don't know why not, I do not judge people, but it does bother me on some level that someone whose suppose to be a Mentor has taken such a lot of effort to discourage me from building a package (whatever it may be) and to explicitly ban it from Debian.
As you have mentioned Richard, I have no expectations from anyone to build the package for me but I do expect to find people here with a little bit more knowledge than I have on Debian and someone replying "read the webapps documentation on http://..."; would have been more than enough instead of starting a debate about the security issues of PHP. I don't know Neil, he's probably a good guy but you really can't argue with a persons' feelings, and I feel that the direction which Neil has taken this conversation has gone way out of proportion. In the meanwhile have a Merry Christmas and a happy New Year. Regards, Liran. On Dec 27, 2007 3:49 PM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Quoting liran tal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > Hey Neil, > > > > On Dec 26, 2007 5:55 PM, Neil Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > i.e. the problem lies within the package itself because it is an > > > intrinsically difficult package to build properly and you would be > best > > > advised finding something else when you are only just starting out as > > > maintainer. PHP is a nightmare for security problems and packaging > > > problems. What I say to you is what I would say to anyone reading the > NM > > > guide for the first time - *don't start with PHP*! (Don't start with a > > > compiled library either, they are complex in entirely different ways.) > > > The NM guide does mention that libraries are not a wise choice for > your > > > first package but as it happened, I didn't get the chance of my own > > > advice because when I started NM, I was already upstream for a library > > > in Debian that needed an update. ;-) So learn from my mistakes and > don't > > > do things the hard way. > > > > > > > > Uhm, it seems to me that the daloradius package is actually as easy > > as it can be. It's just a bunch of .php and other related web > application > > scripts which should simply be copied to /usr/share. > > There's no compilation, no updating of libraries and nothing that would > > seem to be complicated... Maybe I'm missing something but as I see it, > > the "package" should simply unpack the web application files into a > > directory > > and that's it. > > > > Well you obviously could not see the problems other people already pointed > out. Maybe it is time for you to question what "seems" correct to you. > > > Please correct me if I'm wrong. > > > Some people will decline this burden even if you say "Please." > > ..<snip>... > > > > I can't leave it alone Neil, it's my baby :-) > > > Then the burden rests with you. It makes no sense to expect others to > serve up the answers on a golden platter. You better be willing to dig > into the documentation. A RTFM response will suffice and it is up to you > to find where the documentation describes it. > > Richard > >
