2008/4/15, Charles Plessy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Le Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 10:03:17AM +0200, Miriam Ruiz a écrit : > > > In general I try to avoid heated discussions with stubborn upstreams > > The 4th point is simply totally stupid and useless > > Some upstreams are just plainly stupid > > It's simply too childish. > > Hello Miriam,
Hi :) > while I do not really disagree with your conclusions, I was just > wondering before you sent this email if the discussion got heated > because the upstream read the thread on -mentors and got upset by > persons calling his license "stupid". No, not in this case. It all seems to come from a previous discussion among some of them, some time ago [1]. I chose the words I used consciously, so I cannot excuse myself by saying it was the heat of the discussion, even more when I'm not personally involved at all in this package in any way. I'm sorry if it seemed that I was talking about this concrete upstream, I was just generalizing. In fact I was really thinking about another concrete person (upstream of a couple of games) when I used the word "stupid", who really got the nerves out of me some time ago. I wasn't talking about this concrete upstream or this concrete situation, it's not the first time I go through something like this. > Since we know that email is a communication method that is very prone to > misunderstandings, I think that we should try to play safe when > discussion about third parties on a public mailing list. To avoid misunderstandings and just in case, I'll try to clarify this: I wasn't calling stupid to anyone in particular and was just generalizing. In fact, I wasn't trying to insult upstream for this game: I don't know them, never met them, never spoke to them, so I cannot think anything of them, good or bad. As it is obvious, but wanting to make it crystal clear: my words are my personal opinion and in no way should be interpreted as representing Debian or the Debian Games Team in any way, or any other group of people apart of myself. If upstream for that game reads this and gets angry, my words are my own responsibility and it's me who they have to blame for them, and no one else. I'll try to be more politically correct with my words next time, to avoid potential problems with some upstreams. > I also wonder if IRC should be avoided for potentially difficult > interactions with upstream. Anyway, thank you Jack for having tried. Greetings, Miry [1] http://www.teeworlds.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=957 "there have been quite a lot of nagging on the dev-team about the license. It started of back in the 0.3.x days, when the license was a bit more strict, and not to be considered "free". When they then changed the license to 0.4.x, some nagging just kept going on"