On Sun, Dec 16, 2012 at 6:57 PM, Neil Jerram wrote: > Is that a real problem, from a Debian point of view? Aren't we entering > a phase of multiple display management choices anyway, with Wayland > coming along? I would have thought that direct framebuffer access, with > a complementary window management model, was an equally valid choice as > using either X or Wayland.
For Debian thats fine, for me personally there are too many apps and toolkits that don't support anything other than X11. GTK+ for instance has dropped DirectFB support. > Also note that QtMoko supports starting an X server temporarily to run X > clients. I'm glad that works now, the first time I tried it I didn't have any luck. Unfortunately since the AUX button is broken on my gta02 I have no way of exiting the app lauched. On the other phone running Debian (Galaxy S) I have there is no "AUX" either. In the end it is a bit of a kludge IMO. > And also oFono. But there are many examples of similar duplication in > Debian, so is that really a notable problem? Passing through a phase of > (middleware) duplication can be a practical prequel to converging on a > single solution. It is only a problem if we want people to be able to use it on an arbitrary device they happen to have available for installing Debian; say an old device from a friend or their previous phone after upgrading. I can understand continuing to use the QtMoko-specific middleware for gta02 but for new devices it would be much better in the long term to enhance the common middleware. FSO already supports more devices, playing catch-up forever probably is not a good idea. > Do you mean just because of drivers/changes not being mainlined, or are > there other reasons? The mainline issue, which isn't really different in any other distro/UI. > I can't speak for Radek, the main upstream developer, but I'm a small > part of upstream, and my view is that we still have too many functional > issues to worry about to make Debianisation a priority ourselves. Also > I'm not personally a DD or DM yet. But I believe that Debianisation > would be a good long term structure for QtMoko; I am certainly not > hostile to that. Good to hear. No need to be a DD/DM to help get it into Debian and I imagine you would some sponsors among the DDs who use QtMoko on their gta02. QtMoko is already Debianised but the packaging is suboptimal (installs in /opt for eg). -- bye, pabs http://wiki.debian.org/PaulWise -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [email protected] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [email protected] Archive: http://lists.debian.org/caktje6g88ta3yu3bv9xoqf-56gjuxaxq6u7-nqw3q3g4pr7...@mail.gmail.com
