On Sunday 19 February 2006 04:08, Junichi Uekawa was like: > Hi, > > > > > I think if we are making policy here, then setting ALSA as the basic > > > > sound system with JACK used in all cases where applications need to > > > > be able to communicate about audio signals in realtime, is the only > > > > sensible option. This will force everything else to be compatible, > > > > which is a Good Thing (TM). There are very few 'professional' quality > > > > audio applications that don't use these protocols. A/DeMuDi has > > > > enforced ALSA/JACK compatibility for two or three years now. > > > > > > Being a Debian policy, I don't think it's useful to have a policy that > > > excludes most of the classic applications. OSS is a good standard > > > interface. > > > > I'm not suggesting making Policy that would exclude applications. Which > > do you regard as 'classic'? OK, let's break it down a bit. I shall try to > > be RFC2119 compliant. (not to be read as shouting ;) > > > > ALSA MUST be the core sound system. Life would be much simpler if OSS > > were deprecated, but there is a perfectly useable compatibility layer, > > which is available by default. I trust there is little disagreement on > > these points? > > In terms of 'Debian policy', it will go this way: > > Debian recommends use of JACK and ALSA for sound output device, > and use them when possible. (Rationale; for application interoperability, > applications within Debian should try to talk the same protocol) > > It is still allowed for other applications to use other sound output > protocols, but it should be explained in the Description field of the > package.
OK, that's clear. I can work with that. > > > > I also think we should start considering 3d graphics support as a > > > > serious issue. I know this is largely driver-dependent. 3d graphics > > > > have some 'serious' applications in the multimedia realm. If we are > > > > looking to the future this must not be relegated to 'eye-candy for > > > > gamers' - it is more important than that IMO. > > > > > > This is Debian, and we're better off supporting something free. I'm > > > not confident enough with free drivers for 3d graphics cards that they > > > are quite ready. > > > > We MUST ONLY support that which is DFSG free. Which is why I collect > > Voodoo Banshee cards. ;) So agreed, but I still think it's an important > > issue and ought to be mentioned in the Policy document, even if it is > > only a stub to say that free 3d support is lacking unless you use 3dfx > > based cards. > > And another thing is that 3D cards isn't really within the scope of > debian-multimedia, it is addressed by X strike force. I understand we > don't really have different protocols for 3D. We just have drivers > for cards with have different implementation levels. Understood. This is all about practicalities. I'll hassle X strike force about this particular issue then. :) -- cheers, tim hall http://glastonburymusic.org.uk/tim -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
