2009/3/17 Free Ekanayaka <[email protected]>

> Hi Eric,
>
> |--==> On Wed, 11 Mar 2009 08:31:32 -0500, Eric Dantan Rzewnicki <
> [email protected]> said:
>
>  >>So, sid/unstable version of Ardour will be there forever and ever and
>  >>never be released nor meet testing because of debian developer
> "laziness"
>  >>in patching...
>  >>...can someone borrow me a flame-thrower tank?
>
>   EDR> It's not a matter of debian developer laziness ... the ardour in sid
>  EDR> needs patches to _upstream_ libraries. If/when those upstream
> libraries
>  EDR> accept the patches the ardour devs need, then those libraries can get
>  EDR> into debian and ardour can use the debian packaged versions rather
> than
>  EDR> it's own forked versions.
>
> 100% agreed, ardour not in lenny is a Real Pity (TM). To recap
> happened:
>
> 0) the ardour package was built against some 3rd party libs shipped
> inside the upstream tarball, this raised an RC bug
>
> 1) that bug was around for a long time, there were no easy fix for
> that, but eventually all of the patches made it the 3rd party upstream
> projects, which in turned made it to si
>
> 2) I've fixed RC bug in ardour in version 2.7.1-2
>
>
> http://packages.debian.org/changelogs/pool/main/a/ardour/ardour_2.7.1-2/changelog
>
> It was on Dec 18th, that means nearly 2 months before lenny got
> release. At this point ardour was RC-free BUT..
>
> 3) It was depending on jackd 0.109.2, uploaded a few days before. Note
> that jack 0.109.2 was a very important release because it fixed
> important bugs in version 0.106, which had been around for almost one
> year.
>
> Unfortunately lenny was already freezed by that time, and although
> both of the above updates were really safe (IMO) and despite all the
> efforts I and especially Reinhard put into convincing the release
> managers, we are unable to convince them to accept the updates in
> lenny.
>
> I personally felt very disappointed by all this, especially
> considering that lenny got out *2* months later.
>
> So Cassiel, before claiming that 64 Studio Ltd. doesn't contribute to
> Debian, read the package changelogs and the BTS.


I have already apologized for my foolish words, once again sorry++


>
>  EDR> As to any criticism's of Free, anyone who doesn't know should look up
>  EDR> the history of agnula/demudi. Multimedia in debian (and by proxy,
>  EDR> ubuntu) wouldn't be anywhere near where it is today with out his past
>  EDR> and continuing efforts.
>
> Thanks for your words Eric, they're very much appreciated!
>
> Ciao!
>
> Free


Ciao
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