Hi Adrian, First of all, I know the sheer amount of work you do on Debian packages and totally appreciate it! As a maintainer from 2020, I spent many months bringing Kodi to its current shape after Balint Reczey stepped out.
What I am confused about is that you interpreted my message as "go and run manual picture quality tests". What I wrote was different: "Lets document and automate FFmpeg migration checlist for current (and future) ref". When I ported Kodi to FFmpeg 5 (and spent ~3 weeks worth overnights to make it actually usable), I realized that we need to automate these kind of testing or at least have a pool of users to test stuff on a multitude of devices. But I dont have many devices in my posession and nobody else tested the proposed patch ports. So I proposed to ask several dozens of testers on Kodi forums etc to test changes while NMU is in delayed. But doing NMU blindly without testing certainly will impose large amount of work on me if FFmpeg makes a fallout. Furthermore, I dont understand why you are bashing me on the fact that package is removed from testing as of now. Are we approaching feature freeze early? As I said, my plan was as follows - to prepare 22 alpha 3 or hopefully 4 in exp with (finally!) upstreamed cdatetime-std-chrono patchset, then ask testers to run scripted stuff on their devices and then go unstable. Lets see if FF8 works on my two devices first, though. Vasyl 3 травня 2026 р. 14:20:36 GMT+03:00, Adrian Bunk <[email protected]> пише: >On Sun, May 03, 2026 at 01:30:17PM +0300, Vasyl Gello wrote: >> Hello Adrian, > >Hi Vasyl, > >> Thanks for the NMU proposal but FFmpeg is a beast that >> requires extensive semi-manual testing on a bunch of samples >> from https://samples.ffmpeg.org > >your package has an open RC bug for 5 months, and has already been >removed from testing. > >> I have the scripts on my work PC so let me find them so everybody >> interested can run them on different hardware and visually check >> if everything plays as expected. >>... > >I am fixing FTBFS bugs in a literally 4 digit number of packages >in Debian every year, sometimes > 100 in a week. > >I do not have time to waste to go through whatever manual steps a >maintainer documents somewhere, when the package builds and passes >all automated tests it is good enough for me. > >Manual testing you want to do when doing your maintainer uploads cannot >be imposed on other people who are just trying to keep your package >(and its many rdeps) in testing. > >The reason why I looked at kodi today is that some packages that added >kodi support packages recently (genesisplusgx, libretro-beetle-psx) are >about to be autoremoved because this made them non-migratable. >The bad fix would be removing kodi support there again. >The proper fix is to get kodi back into testing ASAP. > >The maintainer of genesisplusgx and libretro-beetle-psx is Sébastien Noel, >who 2 months ago (!) invested time in fixing kodi for making these >packages migratable. > >> Vasyl > >cu >Adrian
