Hi, On 03/05/2016 12:17, Aníbal Monsalve Salazar wrote: > On Tue, 2016-05-03 09:33:57 +0100, Jonathan McDowell wrote: >> On Mon, May 02, 2016 at 10:09:49PM +0200, Mehdi Dogguy wrote: >>> On 02/05/2016 20:21, Gunnar Wolf wrote: >>>> Also, the delegation should be IMO renamed, as we have changed >>>> the DM handling since its inception. The DM team currently >>>> serves in a fashion more similar to that of the NM front desk; >>>> we (the keyring-maint team) are the keyring maintainers for DM >>>> as well. >>> >>> The consensus reached with NM Frontdesk is that no delegation is >>> needed for the assigned tasks. I agree that this is also >>> applicable to the Newmaint team. But I will not de-delegate >>> Newmaint if they feel a delegation is still needed (If that's the >>> case, I'd be interested to know why though) and would like to >>> hear Anibal's opinion before taking a decision. >>> >>> Another option would be to welcome Anibal in the Keyring maint >>> team, which could also make sense and would give him more >>> autonomy. What do you think? >> >> In general we've tried to keep the roles responsible for deciding >> which keys should go into the keyring separate from the management >> of the keyring; while keyring-maint has taken over the addition of >> DM keys to the keyring we have never engaged in processing DM >> applications or making the decisions around accepting them. >
I agree with Jonathan here that roles should be kept separate. On another level, the team has been able to process keys in a timely fashion, AFAIK. So nothing pleads in extending the team's size. > In a meeting during DC9 in Caceres in 2009, Joey Hess, Jonathan > McDowell and I agreed to pass the management of the DM keyring to > the keyring team to integrate the DMs more into various Debian > resources. It was done pretty well. > > During DC14 in Portland I meet Enrico Zini who wanted to merge the > DM applications into the NM process. We agreed on it. It is work in > progress. > I am also fairly confident this process could be automatized if we find someone to write the necessary code. AFAIK, Enrico got no time to do that yet. So maybe a call for help could make things move forward. Following the same reasoning applied to Frontdesk team's delegation, I think delegation for the Newmaint team could be revoked since the required work is administrative (AIUI) and requires no special powers. It doesn't mean work cannot continue, but only that a delegation is not required. Hopefully, this could also encourage more people to join you and give some help. Anibal, are we on the same page? Kind regards, -- Mehdi
