On Tue, Aug 15, 2017 at 10:28:09PM +0100, Jonathan McDowell wrote:
> It required a simple email from the advocate and a whole bunch of work
> on the back end to track such things amongst the Front Desk team. I
> appreciate you hate the web interface, but do not underestimate the
> improvements it has brought to the New Member process.

I'm just puzzled that it seems to be too hard or unwanted to bring back mail
integration. Surely those advocates are part of the process too?
 
> I went to
> https://wiki.debian.org/DebianSingleSignOn#Debian_SSO_documentation.

First of all: thanks for you detailed "howto"!

> I noticed it said "Certificates are issues by https://sso.debian.org/";

I dont see how I should care about certificates (or know that I should/must),
plus this sentence ("Certificates are issues by URL") makes no sense to me.
 
> I went to https://sso.debian.org/

aha!

> I clicked the "Debian account certificates" link

I don't want a cert. Can't I just provide a username+password?
 
> I logged in with noodles / my SSO password (configurable via
> db.debian.org)

again: I have an SSO password, why do I need to mess with certificates?

> It gave me a list of my certificates and a link to "Get new certificate"
> I clicked on "Get new certificate"

see above.

> It gave me a page to Get a new certificate and I stopped because I
> already have one and I don't want another.

I dont want one neither.

So, no cert and no login?

Seems so, sigh, I just logged into sso.debian.org with my sso password 
and it tells me I should get a new certificate. I dont want too, sorry.
Clicked the "get cert" link now, which somehow said it installed it in my
browser and that I should keep a backup of it, without telling where it lives…
more sigh. how should I backup this thing?

going to nm.d.o now shows me i'm logged in. just 
https://nm.debian.org/public/processes
doesnt show Tom Marble and i'm tiredly giving up, sorry Tom.

Guess I will keep advocating people via mail and ignore this web stuff, sorry
to the people who spent time on it. Seems to work for some people well, but
I'm not amongst them.


-- 
cheers,
        Holger

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