On Thu, May 16, 2002 at 05:11:50AM -0600, Matt Armstrong wrote: > Sven Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > On Wed, May 15, 2002 at 12:29:46PM -0600, Matt Armstrong wrote: > >> > >> Yes, I ran into this myself. I'd be nice if hand installed > >> packages were supported easily (through findlib or other ways), > >> since we can't expect all ocaml packages to have .debs. > > > > There is the README.Debian file, the ocaml-ldconf man page and the > > debian packaging policy, not speaking about the online help of > > ocaml-ldconf, which all tell you explicitly to modify > > /etc/ocaml/ld.conf, or are you telling me you did read neither of > > those, nor the discution we had here about it previously, nor even > > the comment on top of the /usr/lib/ocaml/ld.conf file ? > > > > I wonder what i write documentation for then, maybe i should use my > > time for more important things if nobody ever reads it. > > Your documentation allowed me to figure things out when they went > wrong. > > But things went wrong because the install procedures for > non-Debianized ocaml packages somehow find /usr/lib/ocaml/ld.conf and > think they can modify it. This is not ideal no matter how well it is > documented. :-) > > > >> findlib touches /var/lib/ocaml/ld.conf, which is a generated file in > >> Debian. Ideally the Debian's findlib should be patched to not do > >> this. > > > > Yes, this would be good, and maybe resolve the problems Sergio was > > speaking about. > > Maybe even go one more and "hide" /var/lib/ocaml/ld.conf from even > non-findlib installs. Make them think ld.conf lives somewhere else. > Then ocaml-ldconf can merge the changes into the real ld.conf in a > controlled way. > > But I'm not sure it is possible to "trick" packages in this way. I > see that OcamlMakefile likes to use "ocamlc -where" to find ld.conf.
I just need to make ld.conf read only, or even patch ocaml to use debian-ld.conf or something such, and things will work out well. Anyway, this is a post woody thing, and i will concert with upstream and here before making any kind of hard decision on this. > But on a packaged managed system like Debian, there are really two > questions, not one: > > "where" is the ld.conf that ocamlc uses at runtime? The same old one. > "where" is the ld.conf that packages should modify at install > time? This is a dual response, packages should use ocaml-ldconf and the debhelper which modifies /var/lib/ocaml/ld.conf and use installed packages should modify /etc/ocaml/ld.conf. Anyway, i am aware of the many problems now, and the first post woody release will be changing things. > Maybe ocamlc needs an -install-where option. > > > >> Perhaps findlib could add entries to a new > >> /etc/ocaml/findlib-ld.conf file that ocaml-ldconf reads when > >> creating /var/lib/ocaml/ld.conf. > > > > Why not the simple /etc/ocaml/ld.conf ? > > I didn't suggest it because /etc/ocaml/ld.conf seems to have a > different syntax so packages thinking they are editing a real ld.conf > may mess things up. Is this a real problem, or am I confused? I will modify ocaml-ldconf so it will also handle plain old ld.conf files. Friendly, Sven ULther -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
