On Wed, Apr 16, 2003 at 05:03:55PM +0200, Jérôme Marant wrote: > En réponse à Sven Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > > Well, I like the idea of ocaml_x.xx.tar.gz being the pristine > > upstream > > > tarball, unless there is no other choice. > > > > It is a natural thing to do. upstream already ships a > > ocaml-3.06.tar.gz > > file, so where is the problem. > > It is empty in your proposal, isn't it?
ocaml.tar.gz => ocaml_3.06.orig.tar.gz => apt-get source ocaml ocaml-3.06.tar.gz => ocaml-3.06_3.06.orig.tar.gz => apt-get source ocaml-3.06 > > > Currently, there is no problem on the user side but only on the > > > infrastructure side. There are problems that are independent from > > > our will, RC bugs that is. Either we help fixing them, or we wait > > > for them to be fixed. > > > > Ok, now the question is, do we continue with the mini-freeze, or do we > > abandon it. > > I personaly don't have anything to update. But, yes, I think > we could postpone the mini-freeze. We are reactive enough to care > for everyone's packages in case of a problem. And what about the weekly mails i receive inquiring about why ocaml 3.06 is not in testing ? > > > If you think that removing those packages from woody will fix, > > > > I have no way of being sure. > > > > > then this is a good solution right now. > > > > Yes, if it gets implemented. > > What? Removing packages? Yes. > > > > BTW, what would be the apt-get source reaction if i build depended > > the > > > > ocaml package on ocaml-3.06 ? > > > > > > I think this is not natural at all. It don't see the benefit for the > > > user. I don't see any reason on the user's side. > > > > But would there really be a disadvantage, apart from it not being > > 'natural'. > > The disadvantage of not being necessary on the user side. See above. > > > But we don't have real problems with our packages. We are able to > > fix > > > our problem. Problems come from others currently. > > > > Yes, and they expect us to work on fixing their problem to continue > > our work, unless we drop the mini-freeze that is. > > Exactly. So much work for nothing then, and there is a sarge preview snapshot scheduled for the end of the month, in which ocaml 3.06 should have found its natural place. > > > I will try to catch some ftp-master on irc in order to get the work > > > done. > > > > Yes, please do so, maybe you will have more luck than i. > > neuro maybe be only on the night. I don't count any more on > Anthony, he's too harsh. Tell me when you plan to try, maybe i will lurk. That said, even a no, we won't do it + explanation would be nice to have. > > > What the fix? > > > > All these packages have to be installable in testing and all of the > > vorbis stuff will follow. > > Ah, so libvorbis is blocked by them? Yes, same as ocaml is blocked by them. > > It is basically the same problem as the one with ocaml right now, but > > on > > a much bigger scale. Not to speak about the postgresql bug nobody > > seems > > to care about and the maintainer trying to solve it alone and asking > > for > > help on debian-devel. > > I won't judge anyone, I'm personaly unable to help. Same for me. Friendly, Sven Luther
