On Sun, Aug 19, 2001 at 02:52:37PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: > On Sat, Aug 18, 2001 at 10:38:49PM -0300, Cesar Eduardo Barros wrote: > > I have only one thing to add to that list: traceroute should be moved, > > _not_ to > > /usr/bin as lots of people claim, but to /bin . It's as necessary and > > useful as > > ping to diagnose networking trouble, and /usr might be mounted via NFS > > through > > a gateway -- exactly what we want to diagnose. Same for the ipv6 versions of > > ping and traceroute. > > In that case, you'd use "ping ga.te.wa.y" to check if the gateway's up, > and "ping nfs.se.rv.er" to check if your NFS server is up. If either > wasn't up, you'd call networking support, and find out what's going on, > since you'd be rather insane to mount /usr from somewhere remote that > you don't have control over. > > Moving traceroute at all has the same problems no matter where it's too, > anyway. /sbin is no either than /bin or /usr/bin. ping6 is already in > /bin, btw. > > This isn't a policy matter anyway: it only affects one > package (traceroute), so it's something to take up with the > maintainer. Personally, I wouldn't, since I don't think the above adds > anything particularly profound to the debate. >
This proposal was not about traceroute. It was about everything else (ifconfig, route, mke2fs, e2fsck, etc -- everything a normal user runs and yet are at sbin). The traceroute thing was just a footnote. -- Cesar Eduardo Barros [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]