On Saturday 15 June 2002 11:48 pm, Branden Robinson wrote: [snip] first off, i've got to thank both of you for making me aware of the value of sash, though i'd like to propose that it be made a part of any minimal installation definition that may eventually arise as a synthesis of this debate.
as far as the debate is going, sorry, anthony, but it seems like branden has you on the ropes in terms of the logical quality of the argument. when it comes to policy, i am not heartened by any statement that uses the word 'mommy.' on the whole, i think branden has a valid argument. as one who has seriously wished to contribute and has investigated the pathways to doing that, there is a foggy nature around policy that, at least to my mind, tends to obfuscate the process vis-a-vis contributor participation. there is a need for consistent--and, perhaps, organic--redefinition of what the minimal debian installation should incorporate. as far as i have understood 'debian' to mean, it remains a project. that word, project, to my mind, entails a consistent revitilisation of the original intent. the sole reason for my choosing debian has to do with the rule written in the social contract that allows anyone to make use of the distribution. that promise is equivalent to me as the promise of freedom entailed in the u.s. constitution and its bill of rights. in fact, i assume that in the composition of the debian social contract that these promises form the intent of its basic structure. while the exercise of those promises against the real conditions and circumstances in which they arise may occassionally prove difficult, none of those conditions or circumstances can ever be held to justify abnegation on the grounds of purely personal convienience or inconvenience. further, given that branden's arguments are based on logical propostion and rational analysis, whereas anthony's opposition seems to rely solely on ad hominem response, i, albeit for one, wish to make a claim that logic should prevail over ego, because i am sure that both deb and ian's intent had more to do with kantean synthesis than pagan dogmatism. ben -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

