Your message dated Sun, 07 Apr 2024 05:34:03 +0000 with message-id <e1rtlaj-005xgo...@fasolo.debian.org> and subject line Bug#994008: fixed in debian-policy 4.7.0.0 has caused the Debian Bug report #994008, regarding debian-policy: please clarify how archive areas can be combined in source packages to be marked as done.
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--- Begin Message ---Package: debian-policy Version: 4.5.1.0 Severity: normal X-Debbugs-Cc: ftpmas...@debian.org Package maintainers (including me, most of the time) tend to assume that each source package has to exist in exactly one archive area, and all of its binary packages have to go into that same archive area. However, Ansgar tells me this is not actually true. Some of the terms in use here are overloaded, so please be careful. At the dpkg level, there is a Section field in d/control and in binary package metadata. Despite its name, this field actually combines the user-facing section (admin, games, libdevel and so on) and the archive area (main, contrib or non-free). In this mail I will use Section (titlecase) for the field, and section (lower-case) for the user-facing section. .dsc files do not include a Section field, but both source and binary packages have to exist in an archive area, so when accepting uploaded packages the archive software has to guess which archive area the source package ought to be in, based on the Section of the various binary packages in its Package-List field. The Section in the first stanza of d/control is a default for all binary packages that do not explicitly specify their Section, but is not copied into the .dsc file - although perhaps it should be? My understanding is that the ftp team allows the following situations: * A source package builds binary packages that are all in main (e.g. dpkg). The source package is Free and gets put in main. Example d/control (simplified down to just the relevant parts): Source: dpkg # this implicitly means archive area: main, section: admin Section: admin Package: dpkg Package: dpkg-dev # this implicitly means archive area: main, section: utils Section: utils * A source package builds binary packages that are all in contrib (e.g. src:game-data-packager). The source package is Free, and gets put in contrib too. Example d/control (simplified down to just the relevant parts): Source: game-data-packager # this means archive area: contrib, section: games Section: contrib/games Package: game-data-packager Package: quake * A source package builds binary packages that are all in non-free (e.g. src:steam). The source package is at least partially non-Free and gets put in non-free. Example d/control (simplified down to just the relevant parts): Source: steam # this means archive area: non-free, section: games Section: non-free/games Package: steam Package: steam-devices * A source package builds a mixture of binary packages that are suitable for main and binary packages suitable for contrib (e.g. src:cpl-plugin-amber, where cpl-plugin-amber-calib is contrib and the rest is in main). The source package is Free, even though some of its binary packages have external and/or non-free dependencies, so it can be put in main. Example d/control (simplified down to just the relevant parts): Source: cpl-plugin-amber # this implicitly means archive area: main, section: science Section: science Package: cpl-plugin-amber Package: cpl-plugin-amber-calib # this means archive area: contrib, section: science Section: contrib/science In particular, a source package is not allowed to combine non-free binary packages with main or contrib binary packages: the important parts of steam-devices.deb are actually Free (MIT-licensed), but if I wanted to put those in main, I would have to split the source package into an entirely Free part to build steam-devices.deb, and a non-Free part to build steam.deb. >From the Policy text, it is not clear that the last one of those four situations (as used in cpl-plugin-amber) is allowed. It would be useful for Policy to explicitly say that it is, so that it's available as a tool for maintainers to use when appropriate. Questions for the ftp team: * Is my understanding of this correct? * Are source packages like cpl-plugin-amber, that mix main and contrib binary packages, considered to be something that is entirely valid and should be used whenever it is the closest representation of reality; or is this considered to be deprecated feature that should be avoided, with maintainers preferring to split the source package into a part that builds 100% main binary packages and a part that builds 100% contrib binary packages? One concrete place where this could be useful is that src:pipewire optionally builds a plugin that uses fdk-aac (in non-free) for better Bluetooth support. This is currently disabled via a Build-Conflicts in Debian, but users of some Bluetooth headsets would prefer to be able to use it. If pipewire could build everything from a single source package in main, and produce binary packages that are mostly main but also include a contrib plugin for fdk-aac, then that would be a lot easier than a separate pipewire-contrib source package. smcv
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--- Begin Message ---Source: debian-policy Source-Version: 4.7.0.0 Done: Sean Whitton <spwhit...@spwhitton.name> We believe that the bug you reported is fixed in the latest version of debian-policy, which is due to be installed in the Debian FTP archive. A summary of the changes between this version and the previous one is attached. Thank you for reporting the bug, which will now be closed. If you have further comments please address them to 994...@bugs.debian.org, and the maintainer will reopen the bug report if appropriate. Debian distribution maintenance software pp. Sean Whitton <spwhit...@spwhitton.name> (supplier of updated debian-policy package) (This message was generated automatically at their request; if you believe that there is a problem with it please contact the archive administrators by mailing ftpmas...@ftp-master.debian.org) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA512 Format: 1.8 Date: Sun, 07 Apr 2024 13:08:55 +0800 Source: debian-policy Architecture: source Version: 4.7.0.0 Distribution: unstable Urgency: medium Maintainer: Debian Policy Editors <debian-policy@lists.debian.org> Changed-By: Sean Whitton <spwhit...@spwhitton.name> Closes: 963524 968226 970234 994008 1029211 1035733 1039102 1068192 Changes: debian-policy (4.7.0.0) unstable; urgency=medium . [ Sean Whitton ] * Policy: Prefer native overriding mechanisms to diversions & alternatives Wording: Luca Boccassi <bl...@debian.org> Seconded: Sean Whitton <spwhit...@spwhitton.name> Seconded: Russ Allbery <r...@debian.org> Seconded: Holger Levsen <hol...@layer-acht.org> Closes: #1035733 * Policy: Improve alternative build dependency discussion Wording: Russ Allbery <r...@debian.org> Seconded: Wouter Verhelst <wou...@debian.org> Seconded: Sean Whitton <spwhit...@spwhitton.name> Closes: #968226 * Policy: No network access for required targets for contrib & non-free Wording: Aurelien Jarno <aure...@debian.org> Seconded: Sam Hartman <hartm...@debian.org> Seconded: Tobias Frost <t...@debian.org> Seconded: Holger Levsen <hol...@layer-acht.org> Closes: #1068192 . [ Russ Allbery ] * Policy: Add mention of the new non-free-firmware archive area Wording: Gunnar Wolf <gw...@gwolf.org> Seconded: Holger Levsen <hol...@layer-acht.org> Seconded: Russ Allbery <r...@debian.org> Closes: #1029211 * Policy: Source packages in main may build binary packages in contrib Wording: Simon McVittie <s...@debian.org> Seconded: Holger Levsen <hol...@layer-acht.org> Seconded: Russ Allbery <r...@debian.org> Closes: #994008 * Policy: Allow hard links in source packages Wording: Russ Allbery <r...@debian.org> Seconded: Helmut Grohne <hel...@subdivi.de> Seconded: Guillem Jover <guil...@debian.org> Closes: #970234 * Policy: Binary and Description fields may be absent in .changes Wording: Russ Allbery <r...@debian.org> Seconded: Sam Hartman <hartm...@debian.org> Seconded: Guillem Jover <guil...@debian.org> Closes: #963524 * Policy: systemd units are required to start and stop system services Wording: Luca Boccassi <bl...@debian.org> Wording: Russ Allbery <r...@debian.org> Seconded: Luca Boccassi <bl...@debian.org> Seconded: Sam Hartman <hartm...@debian.org> Closes: #1039102 Checksums-Sha1: cceb560f2e75c99e38aade67c89ee61e09e7a3e5 2136 debian-policy_4.7.0.0.dsc fb76348525ee83aa8b75eee50d1d0d166997ca5d 560352 debian-policy_4.7.0.0.tar.xz Checksums-Sha256: 57cf3ee833405240396b40cc9ee65568c09cb9bd421c8cfdec1ff03cba287319 2136 debian-policy_4.7.0.0.dsc cc53cfec06db76e6a26dd61b6f4f8015e95637fc67d5715c54487507ee113a40 560352 debian-policy_4.7.0.0.tar.xz Files: ab2b8b895ec9092a064a72cf0665c47a 2136 doc optional debian-policy_4.7.0.0.dsc 2f658f4169866f3db703cf78e96dcb9a 560352 doc optional debian-policy_4.7.0.0.tar.xz -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIzBAEBCgAdFiEEm5FwB64DDjbk/CSLaVt65L8GYkAFAmYSLcMACgkQaVt65L8G YkCyJg//cXSHspKUQgje2QUDvo+FMIEWjg8sYUUHhdnq6xLHlc8fxcID1V1kH7F0 bGSzmfJyBTbALWDTmrr9O5dIkSy7Fe4D+qY95r0wuWJ0F2GNyL4sYyBUMwdtevgj ZoDoO69R/Z9ae54ouFMNg7q8gioWM2HZyvz7Fi8i2fTOfjl1RkAaVgP5IzOSL7OY AdOPuLRA4OxzwmdoIyuDfzE3ypXA+EThMIRzmsQfeHS2+9WTaqpXCF9DxoSRhrl2 F3K+KATvfd78aWlN3aF3dFbDck4oz2wx+3CH0Q0kFZhlQPs/oXiiRA5Sz1d3ILfK fX8k0FAATlPWxEEXTsrYPjPQ0Pp6sJKr10K3iZr4RHBOdH9y+XTNavEw+5M5V2Ga x0ht/HeZwgrGyxJeBJ+SOgZ1WE02UbJVBwPtaR2IVlLJNJH7p5Sjo3JXfwUKcVFG o+8VcACg+wilO40lynWSVm7/QBFt9BzjOTXiVO7FJsCrYv0sJQFZwlQOdI5oAwEs FQvxBJKnuYrEjU5q6wsImZSbose+Gz5ptapjb1AE506GZG0CmjUNRwlAGHOGY16L 8SIBByrOGNh867wy7prMBoifwfjP6OMKQpw8DcKKmMGOpoc8ob5nw+ERf2FSCxym A8qgNRwVoRN4WMvcPcTNcCzhNnITqpNIFcy2ME0o9P1fI6ujgzQ= =KSE/ -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
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